From: "Singh, Balbir" <sblbir@amazon.com>
To: "tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "keescook@chromium.org" <keescook@chromium.org>,
"tony.luck@intel.com" <tony.luck@intel.com>,
"benh@kernel.crashing.org" <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
"dave.hansen@intel.com" <dave.hansen@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] arch/x86: Optionally flush L1D on context switch
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2020 01:13:46 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87e4bd4e25c81d43abb47d0e2812c21a0478869b.camel@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200325071101.29556-1-sblbir@amazon.com>
On Wed, 2020-03-25 at 18:10 +1100, Balbir Singh wrote:
> This patch is a continuation of RFC/PoC to start the discussion on
> optionally
> flushing L1D cache. The goal is to allow tasks that are paranoid due to the
> recent snoop assisted data sampling vulnerabilites, to flush their L1D on
> being
> switched out. This protects their data from being snooped or leaked via
> side channels after the task has context switched out.
>
> The points of discussion/review are (with updates):
>
> 1. Discuss the use case and the right approach to address this
> A. Generally there seems to be consensus that we need this
>
> 2. Does an arch prctl allowing for opt-in flushing make sense, would other
> arches care about something similar?
> A. We definitely build this for x86, have not heard from any other arch
> maintainers. There was suggestion to make this a prctl and let each
> arch implement L1D flushing if needed, there is no arch agnostic
> software L1D flush.
>
> 3. There is a fallback software L1D load, similar to what L1TF does, but
> we don't prefetch the TLB, is that sufficient?
> A. There was no conclusion, I suspect we don't need this
>
> 4. Should we consider cleaning up the L1D on arrival of tasks?
> A. For now, we think this case is not the priority for this patchset.
>
> In summary, this is an early PoC to start the discussion on the need for
> conditional L1D flushing based on the security posture of the
> application and the sensitivity of the data it has access to or might
> have access to.
>
> Changelog v2:
> - Reuse existing code for allocation and flush
> - Simplify the goto logic in the actual l1d_flush function
> - Optimize the code path with jump labels/static functions
>
> Cc: keescook@chromium.org
>
> Balbir Singh (4):
> arch/x86/kvm: Refactor l1d flush lifecycle management
> arch/x86: Refactor tlbflush and l1d flush
> arch/x86: Optionally flush L1D on context switch
> arch/x86: L1D flush, optimize the context switch
>
Ping, looking for comments and criticism of the approach. I understand with
the merge window around the corner everyone is busy. There is a bug in the v2
RFC series, I am happy to post a version without the RFC for broader testing
and feedback.
I am quite keen to hear about the interface and any concerns with the
arch_prctl() interface.
Balbir Singh.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-03-30 1:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-03-25 7:10 [RFC PATCH v2 0/4] arch/x86: Optionally flush L1D on context switch Balbir Singh
2020-03-25 7:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/4] arch/x86/kvm: Refactor l1d flush lifecycle management Balbir Singh
2020-03-25 7:10 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/4] arch/x86: Refactor tlbflush and l1d flush Balbir Singh
2020-03-25 7:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/4] arch/x86: Optionally flush L1D on context switch Balbir Singh
2020-03-31 18:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-03-31 23:56 ` Singh, Balbir
2020-03-25 7:11 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/4] arch/x86: L1D flush, optimize the " Balbir Singh
2020-03-25 7:15 ` Singh, Balbir
2020-03-30 1:13 ` Singh, Balbir [this message]
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