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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [patch V5 09/26] posix-timers: Make signal overrun accounting sensible
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 11:10:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ed456f4e.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ldyd6fq8.ffs@tglx>

On Thu, Oct 24 2024 at 10:57, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 21 2024 at 23:54, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
>> Le Tue, Oct 01, 2024 at 10:42:12AM +0200, Thomas Gleixner a écrit :
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * Set the overrun count to zero unconditionally. The posix timer
>>> +	 * code does not self rearm periodic timers. They are rearmed from
>>> +	 * dequeue_signal().
>>> +	 *
>>> +	 * But there is a situation where @q is already enqueued:
>>> +	 *
>>> +	 * 1) timer_settime()
>>> +	 *      arm_timer()
>>> +	 * 2) timer_expires()
>>> +	 *      send_sigqueue(@q)
>>> +	 *        enqueue(@q)
>>> +	 * 3) timer_settime()
>>> +	 *      arm_timer()
>>> +	 * 4) timer_expires()
>>> +	 *      send_sigqueue(@q) <- Observes @q already queued
>>> +	 *
>>> +	 * In this case incrementing si_overrun does not make sense because
>>> +	 * there is no relationship between timer_settime() #1 and #2.
>>> +	 *
>>> +	 * The POSIX specification is useful as always: "The effect of
>>> +	 * disarming or resetting a timer with pending expiration
>>> +	 * notifications is unspecified."
>>> +	 *
>>> +	 * Just do the sensible thing and reset the overrun.
>>> +	 */
>>> +	q->info.si_overrun = 0;
>>
>> So this means that in the above example case, no signal at all is going to be
>> delivered (because the seq will be impaired on the previously queued
>> signal) and no overrun count will be incremented either?
>
> So #2 queues the signal, but before delivery the timer is rearmed, which
> invalidates the signal via the sequence count. So #4 has to set the
> overrun counter which might be set already.

The signal will be delivered. It's either already marked as pending, but
not yet delivered or it is masked and will be marked pending on unmask.

>>> +
>>>  	ret = 1; /* the signal is ignored */
>>>  	result = TRACE_SIGNAL_IGNORED;
>>>  	if (!prepare_signal(sig, t, false))
>>> @@ -1968,15 +1996,9 @@ int send_sigqueue(struct sigqueue *q, st
>>>  
>>>  	ret = 0;
>>>  	if (unlikely(!list_empty(&q->list))) {
>>> -		/*
>>> -		 * If an SI_TIMER entry is already queue just increment
>>> -		 * the overrun count.
>>> -		 */
>>> -		q->info.si_overrun++;
>>
>> Who is ever incrementing this after that? I'm a bit confused between the
>> timer overrun and the sigqueue overrun. Those seem to be two different
>> things without any link...
>
> Hmm. You're right. This should now never happen. Let me stare at it some
> moar.

Of course it can happen that the signal is queued. See above scenario :)

But q->info.si_overrun should never be anything else than 0. The timer code
increments the overrun counter and updates si_overrun on signal
delivery, but that's done on the siginfo which is a copy of q->info.

This seems to be a leftover from early posix-timer days... So that
change can be reduced to removing the increment.

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2024-10-24  9:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-01  8:41 [patch V5 00/26] posix-timers: Cure the SIG_IGN mess Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 01/26] signal: Confine POSIX_TIMERS properly Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-18 12:50   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-18 21:49     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-29 11:09   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 02/26] signal: Cleanup flush_sigqueue_mask() Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-18 13:05   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 11:09   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 03/26] posix-timers: Cure si_sys_private race Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-21 11:05   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 11:09   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 04/26] signal: Allow POSIX timer signals to be dropped Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-21 12:20   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 11:09   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 05/26] posix-timers: Drop signal if timer has been deleted or reprogrammed Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-21 12:29   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-24  8:40     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24 11:46       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 11:09   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 06/26] posix-timers: Rename k_itimer::it_requeue_pending Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-21 12:35   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 11:09   ` [tip: timers/core] posix-timers: Rename k_itimer:: It_requeue_pending tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 07/26] posix-timers: Add proper state tracking Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-21 13:19   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-24  8:45     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24 12:10       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 11:09   ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 08/26] posix-timers: Make signal delivery consistent Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-21 14:40   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-24  8:52     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 09/26] posix-timers: Make signal overrun accounting sensible Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-21 21:54   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-24  8:57     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-24  9:10       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2024-10-24 13:34         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 10/26] posix-cpu-timers: Use dedicated flag for CPU timer nanosleep Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-22 14:25   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 11/26] posix-timers: Add a refcount to struct k_itimer Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-28 14:42   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 12/26] signal: Split up __sigqueue_alloc() Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-28 16:41   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 13/26] signal: Provide posixtimer_sigqueue_init() Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-29 13:25   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 14/26] posix-timers: Store PID type in the timer Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-29 13:46   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 15/26] signal: Refactor send_sigqueue() Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-29 14:06   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 16/26] signal: Replace resched_timer logic Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-29 15:08   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 15:56   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 16:22     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-29 16:34       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 16:55         ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-29 17:55           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 19:16             ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-29 20:18               ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 16:36       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-29 16:04   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-29 16:59     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 17/26] posix-timers: Embed sigqueue in struct k_itimer Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-29 16:29   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-30 13:55   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-30 14:30     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 18/26] signal: Cleanup unused posix-timer leftovers Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-30 11:16   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 19/26] posix-timers: Move sequence logic into struct k_itimer Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-30 13:45   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 20/26] signal: Provide ignored_posix_timers list Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-30 14:02   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 21/26] posix-timers: Handle ignored list on delete and exit Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-30 17:06   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-30 17:34     ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-30 20:58       ` Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 22/26] signal: Handle ignored signals in do_sigaction(action != SIG_IGN) Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 23/26] signal: Queue ignored posixtimers on ignore list Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 24/26] posix-timers: Cleanup SIG_IGN workaround leftovers Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 25/26] alarmtimers: Remove the throttle mechanism from alarm_forward_now() Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01  8:42 ` [patch V5 26/26] alarmtimers: Remove return value from alarm functions Thomas Gleixner
2024-10-01 20:48 ` [patch V5 00/26] posix-timers: Cure the SIG_IGN mess Eric W. Biederman

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