From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Sebastian Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
syzbot+5c54bd3eb218bb595aa9@syzkaller.appspotmail.com,
Dmitry Vyukov <dvyukov@google.com>,
Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 18/20] posix-timers: Clarify posix_timer_fn() comments
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 20:43:19 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87edmvdnw8.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZHibcwrDgegKwQeQ@lothringen>
On Thu, Jun 01 2023 at 15:21, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 08:49:24PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> Make the issues vs. SIG_IGN understandable and remove the 15 years old
>> promise that a proper solution is already on the horizon.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
>> ---
>> kernel/time/posix-timers.c | 56 +++++++++++++++++++++------------------------
>> 1 file changed, 27 insertions(+), 29 deletions(-)
>>
>> --- a/kernel/time/posix-timers.c
>> +++ b/kernel/time/posix-timers.c
>> @@ -325,11 +325,11 @@ int posix_timer_event(struct k_itimer *t
>> }
>>
>> /*
>> - * This function gets called when a POSIX.1b interval timer expires. It
>> - * is used as a callback from the kernel internal timer. The
>> - * run_timer_list code ALWAYS calls with interrupts on.
>> -
>> - * This code is for CLOCK_REALTIME* and CLOCK_MONOTONIC* timers.
>> + * This function gets called when a POSIX.1b interval timer expires from
>> + * the HRTIMER soft interrupt with interrupts enabled.
>
> BTW, what arranges for this to be called in softirq with interrupts enabled?
> The modes I see used here are HRTIMER_MODE_ABS or HRTIMER_MODE_REL and not
> their _SOFT counterparts.
Duh. My RT biased brain tricked me.
>> + *
>> + * Handles CLOCK_REALTIME, CLOCK_MONOTONIC, CLOCK_BOOTTIME and CLOCK_TAI
>> + * based timers.
>> */
>> static enum hrtimer_restart posix_timer_fn(struct hrtimer *timer)
>> {
>> @@ -358,34 +359,31 @@ static enum hrtimer_restart posix_timer_
>> * FIXME: What we really want, is to stop this
>> * timer completely and restart it in case the
>> * SIG_IGN is removed. This is a non trivial
>> - * change which involves sighand locking
>> - * (sigh !), which we don't want to do late in
>> - * the release cycle.
>> + * change to the signal handling code.
>> + *
>> + * For now let timers with an interval less than a
>> + * jiffie expire every jiffie to avoid softirq
>
> Or rather at least to the next jiffie, right? Because then in the next jiffie
> it gets re-evaluated in case a real signal handler might have been set
> in-between.
>
> Or it could be:
>
> + * For now let timers with an interval less than a
> + * jiffie expire every jiffie (until a real sig handler
> + * is found set) to avoid softirq...
Let me rephrase that.
>> + * starvation in case of SIG_IGN and a very small
>> + * interval, which would put the timer right back
>> + * on the softirq pending list. Moving now ahead of
>> + * time tricks hrtimer_forward() to expire the
>> + * timer later, while it still maintains the
>> + * overrun accuracy for the price of a slightly
>> + * inconsistency in the timer_gettime() case. This
>> + * is at least better than a starved softirq.
> [...]
>> */
>> -#ifdef CONFIG_HIGH_RES_TIMERS
>> - {
>> + if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_HIGHRES_TIMERS)) {
>> ktime_t kj = NSEC_PER_SEC / HZ;
>
> Could be TICK_NSECS?
Yep. Fixed it up.
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Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-04-25 18:48 [patch 00/20] posix-timers: Fixes and cleanups Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:48 ` [patch 01/20] posix-timers: Prevent RT livelock in itimer_delete() Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-04 17:06 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-05-04 18:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-05 7:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 19:00 ` [patch v2 " Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 20:16 ` [patch v2a " Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 10:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:48 ` [patch 02/20] posix-timers: Ensure timer ID search-loop limit is valid Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-05 14:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-05-05 22:58 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-05 23:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-08 21:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 9:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 12:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 21:42 ` [RFD] posix-timers: CRIU woes Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-10 4:36 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-10 8:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11 4:12 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-11 7:56 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-05-11 9:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11 10:13 ` David Laight
2023-05-10 8:16 ` Andrey Vagin
2023-05-11 3:17 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-11 9:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11 9:52 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-11 13:42 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11 14:54 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-11 15:25 ` Pavel Tikhomirov
2023-05-12 1:21 ` Andrey Vagin
2023-05-31 17:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-11 7:49 ` Cyrill Gorcunov
2023-05-10 0:42 ` [patch 02/20] posix-timers: Ensure timer ID search-loop limit is valid Andrey Vagin
2023-05-09 9:42 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-05-09 12:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 12:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 14:18 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-01 18:58 ` [patch v2 " Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-05 14:17 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 03/20] posix-timers: Clarify timer_wait_running() comment Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 9:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 04/20] posix-timers: Cleanup comments about timer ID tracking Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 9:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 05/20] posix-timers: Add comments about timer lookup Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 10:58 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 06/20] posix-timers: Annotate concurrent access to k_itimer::it_signal Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-09 11:04 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] posix-timers: Annotate concurrent access to k_itimer:: It_signal tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 07/20] posix-timers: Set k_itimer::it_signal to NULL on exit() Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:09 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] posix-timers: Set k_itimer:: It_signal " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 08/20] posix-timers: Remove pointless irqsafe from hash_lock Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:12 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 09/20] posix-timers: Split release_posix_timers() Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:25 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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2023-06-18 20:50 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 10/20] posix-timers: Document sys_clock_getres() correctly Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 10:44 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-05 15:08 ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 11/20] posix-timers: Document common_clock_get() correctly Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 11:00 ` Frederic Weisbecker
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 12/20] posix-timers: Document sys_clock_getoverrun() Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 13/20] posix-timers: Document sys_clock_settime() permissions in place Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 14/20] posix-timers: Document nanosleep() details Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 15/20] posix-timers: Add proper comments in do_timer_create() Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 16/20] posix-timers: Comment SIGEV_THREAD_ID properly Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 17/20] posix-timers: Clarify posix_timer_rearm() comment Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 18/20] posix-timers: Clarify posix_timer_fn() comments Thomas Gleixner
2023-06-01 13:21 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2023-06-01 18:43 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
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2023-06-05 22:17 ` tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 19/20] posix-timers: Remove pointless comments Thomas Gleixner
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2023-04-25 18:49 ` [patch 20/20] posix-timers: Polish coding style in a few places Thomas Gleixner
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