From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
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Subject: Re: General flags to turn things off (getrandom, pid lookup, etc)
Date: Sat, 26 Jul 2014 12:48:48 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87egx7dhpb.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXHNFYaQjksBJyN3O0HJpKw_D_tU7b4O23=nyJt9CPSLg@mail.gmail.com> (Andy Lutomirski's message of "Fri, 25 Jul 2014 14:41:47 -0700")
Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> writes:
> On Fri, Jul 25, 2014 at 2:35 PM, One Thousand Gnomes
> <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2014 11:30:48 -0700
>> Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> wrote:
>>
>>> [new thread because this sort of combines two threads]
>>>
>>> There is recent interest in having a way to turn generally-available
>>> kernel features off. Maybe we should add a good one so we can stop
>>> bikeshedding and avoid proliferating dumb interfaces.
>>
>> We sort of have one. It's called capable(). Just needs extending to cover
>> anything else you care about, and probably all the numeric constants
>> replacing with textual names.
The big difference is capable only subdivides roots powers (aka things
most applications should not have). When we start talking about things
that things that are safe for most applications capable is probably not
the right tool for the job.
A much closer match is the personality system call. Look at setarch
to see how it is used. My biggest concern with personality is there
are only 32bits to play with. Still I expect what you want may be a
sandbox personality, that disables everything that could possibly be
a problem (including access to the personality syscall).
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-07-26 19:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-07-25 18:30 General flags to turn things off (getrandom, pid lookup, etc) Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-25 20:15 ` Dave Jones
2014-07-25 20:21 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-25 21:35 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-07-25 21:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-26 19:48 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2014-07-30 14:37 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-07-25 23:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-07-25 23:54 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-27 12:26 ` David Drysdale
2014-07-27 21:06 ` Theodore Ts'o
2014-07-27 22:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-07-27 23:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-07-30 14:37 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-07-30 18:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2014-07-30 21:29 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-07-31 2:37 ` Eric W. Biederman
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