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From: Frank Oltmanns <frank@oltmanns.dev>
To: Roman Beranek <me@crly.cz>
Cc: Maxime Ripard <mripard@kernel.org>,
	Jernej Skrabec <jernej.skrabec@gmail.com>,
	Chen-Yu Tsai <wens@csie.org>, David Airlie <airlied@gmail.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Samuel Holland <samuel@sholland.org>, Ondrej Jirman <megi@xff.cz>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-sunxi@lists.linux.dev, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Icenowy Zheng <uwu@icenowy.me>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/7] drm: sun4i: set proper TCON0 DCLK rate in DSI mode
Date: Mon, 08 May 2023 16:08:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fs86q5h4.fsf@oltmanns.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o7mvpayj.fsf@oltmanns.dev>

Hello again,

On 2023-05-08 at 08:54:28 +0200, Frank Oltmanns <frank@oltmanns.dev> wrote:
> Hello Roman,
>
> On 2023-05-03 at 16:22:32 +0200, "Roman Beranek" <me@crly.cz> wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> I apologize for my absence from the discussion during past week, I got
>> hit with tonsillitis.
>
> I hope you feel better!
>
>> On Mon May 1, 2023 at 3:40 PM CEST, Frank Oltmanns wrote:
>>> Looking at ccu_nkm_determine_rate(), we've found our culprit because it
>>> does not try parent clock rates other than the current one. The same
>>> applies to all other ccu_nkm_* functions.
>>
>> Yes, that's why I dropped CLK_SET_RATE_PARENT from pll-mipi in v3.
>>
>>>  b. Add functionality to ccu_nkm_* to also update the parent clock rate.
>>>
>>> I'm actually interested in tackling b, but I can't make any promises as
>>> to if and when I'll be able to solve it. I'm not certain about any side
>>> effects this might have.
>>
>> It sounds like an interesting exercise. But what if HDMI is then added
>> to the mix?
>
> Thanks for interest in this discussion! I really appreciate it!
>
> First of all, let me admit that I'm no expert on this. But nobody else
> has replied so far, and I want to keep this conversation going, so let
> me share my view.
>
> My understanding is that pll-mipi being able to set pll-video0's rate
> should not have an impact on HDMI, neither positive nor negative. If I'm
> not mistaken those two things are orthogonal.
>
> The relevant part of the clk_summary with your v4 [1] patch on top of
> drm-next looks like this:
>
>                                  enable  protect              hardware
>    clock                          count    count        rate    enable
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     pll-video0                        1        1   294000000         Y
>        hdmi                           0        0   294000000         N
>        tcon1                          0        0   294000000         N
>        pll-mipi                       1        1   431200000         Y
>           tcon0                       2        1   431200000         Y
>              tcon-data-clock          1        1   107800000         Y
>        pll-video0-2x                  0        0   588000000         Y
>
> Note, that pll-video0 is protected.
>
> I don't own any boards that support HDMI in mainline. For the pinephone
> this support is added e.g. in megi's kernel, where connecting an HDMI
> output results in pll-video0's rate being set to 297MHz, even though it
> is 294MHz after boot.
>
> So, for reference, this is the same part of the clk_summary with megi's
> 6.3.0 kernel, USB-C dock unplugged:
>
>                                  enable  protect              hardware
>    clock                          count    count        rate    enable
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     pll-video0                        3        0   294000000         Y
>        hdmi-phy-clk                   1        0    73500000         Y
>        hdmi                           1        0   294000000         Y
>        tcon1                          0        0   294000000         N
>        pll-mipi                       1        0   431200000         Y
>           tcon0                       2        0   431200000         Y
>              tcon-pixel-clock         1        0   107800000         Y
>        pll-video0-2x                  0        0   588000000         Y
>
> pll-video0 is not protected. When plugging in the USB-C dock with an HDMI
> monitor connected, the situation looks like this:

Just for reference, the protection count is disabled by this commit [1]
in megi's kernel.

In the commit message Icenowy Zheng refers to "the ability to keep TCON0
clock stable when HDMI changes its parent's clock." She implemented this
in these two previous commits [2] [3]. None of this is in mainline.

Best regards,
  Frank

[1]: https://github.com/megous/linux/commit/039f7ee3f44adfbe4c6b7c2f1798b9a70c9fb9ee
[2]: https://github.com/megous/linux/commit/a927843932f16e5a7f5ff57fbfd2d5f11c712b67
[3]: https://github.com/megous/linux/commit/0e305371eaa49128856acce9830e6af079442ad6

>
>                                  enable  protect              hardware
>    clock                          count    count        rate    enable
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>     pll-video0                        4        1   297000000         Y
>        hdmi-phy-clk                   1        0   148500000         Y
>        hdmi                           1        0   148500000         Y
>        tcon1                          1        1   148500000         Y
>        pll-mipi                       1        0   424285714         Y
>           tcon0                       2        0   424285714         Y
>              tcon-pixel-clock         1        0   106071428         Y
>        pll-video0-2x                  0        0   594000000         Y
>
> As you can see, pll-video0 is updated to 297 MHz. My understanding is
> (again: not an expert here) this is only possible due to the missing
> protection.
>
> What I'm trying to say is that I don't see a connection between HDMI and
> having the functionality in ccu_nkm_* to update the parent clock rate.
>
> But I do think it would be preferable to have pll-video0 at 297 MHz
> after boot on the pinephone. We could achieve this with my two previous
> proposals:
>
>  a) Set pll-video0 to 297 MHz on boot
>  b) Add functionality to ccu_nkm_* to also update the parent clock rate.
>
> If solution b is viable, the goal for the pinephone (and any other
> boards supporting HDMI) would then be to select a pixel-data-clock so
> that the rate for pll-video0 is set to 297 MHz (by selecting an
> appropriate clock speed for the internal panel).
>
> Maybe I'm misunderstanding something. If so, I'd appreciate any
> corrections.
>
> Thanks,
>   Frank
>
> [1]: https://lore.kernel.org/all/20230505052110.67514-1-me@crly.cz/
>
>>
>> Best regards
>> Roman

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-08 14:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-18  7:40 [PATCH v2 0/7] drm: sun4i: set proper TCON0 DCLK rate in DSI mode Roman Beranek
2023-04-18  7:40 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] clk: sunxi-ng: a64: propagate rate change from pll-mipi Roman Beranek
2023-04-25 16:09   ` Maxime Ripard
2023-04-18  7:40 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] clk: sunxi-ng: a64: export PLL_MIPI Roman Beranek
2023-04-18  7:40 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] clk: sunxi-ng: a64: prevent CLK_TCON0 being reparented Roman Beranek
2023-04-18  7:40 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] arm64: dts: allwinner: a64: assign PLL_MIPI to CLK_TCON0 Roman Beranek
2023-04-25 16:10   ` Maxime Ripard
2023-04-18  7:40 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] ARM: dts: sunxi: rename tcon's clock output Roman Beranek
2023-04-18  7:40 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] drm: sun4i: rename sun4i_dotclock to sun4i_tcon_dclk Roman Beranek
2023-04-18  7:40 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] drm: sun4i: calculate proper DCLK rate for DSI Roman Beranek
2023-04-23 13:24 ` [PATCH v2 0/7] drm: sun4i: set proper TCON0 DCLK rate in DSI mode Frank Oltmanns
2023-05-01 13:40   ` Frank Oltmanns
2023-05-03 14:22     ` Roman Beranek
2023-05-08  6:54       ` Frank Oltmanns
2023-05-08 14:08         ` Frank Oltmanns [this message]
2023-05-10 18:41           ` Jernej Škrabec

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