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From: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Jork Loeser <Jork.Loeser@microsoft.com>,
	KY Srinivasan <kys@microsoft.com>,
	Simon Xiao <sixiao@microsoft.com>,
	Haiyang Zhang <haiyangz@microsoft.com>,
	Stephen Hemminger <sthemmin@microsoft.com>,
	"luto\@kernel.org" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"hpa\@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"rostedt\@goodmis.org" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"andy.shevchenko\@gmail.com" <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	"tglx\@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"mingo\@kernel.org" <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"linux-tip-commits\@vger.kernel.org" 
	<linux-tip-commits@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [tip:x86/platform] x86/hyper-v: Use hypercall for remote TLB flush
Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2017 15:20:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fucup9ou.fsf@vitty.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170811162605.tr4tig4av3q4fll6@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (Peter Zijlstra's message of "Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:26:05 +0200")

Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:

> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 09:16:29AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 2:03 AM, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm sure we talked about using HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE for x86 (and yes that
>> > would make it work again), but this was some years ago and I cannot
>> > readily find those emails.
>> 
>> I think the only time we really talked about HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE for
>> x86 (at least that I was cc'd on) was not because of RCU freeing, but
>> because we just wanted to use the generic page table lookup code on
>> x86 *despite* not using RCU freeing.
>> 
>> And we just ended up renaming HAVE_GENERIC_RCU_GUP as HAVE_GENERIC_GUP.
>> 
>> There was only passing mention of maybe making x86 use RCU, but the
>> discussion was really about why the IF flag meant that x86 didn't need
>> to, iirc.
>> 
>> I don't recall us ever discussing *really* making x86 use RCU.
>
> Google finds me this:
>
>   https://lwn.net/Articles/500188/
>
> Which includes:
>
>   http://www.mail-archive.com/kvm@vger.kernel.org/msg72918.html
>
> which does as was suggested here, selects HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE for
> PARAVIRT_TLB_FLUSH.
>
> But yes, this is very much virt specific nonsense, native would never
> need this.

In case we decide to go HAVE_RCU_TABLE_FREE for all PARAVIRT-enabled
kernels (as it seems to be the easiest/fastest way to fix Xen PV) - what
do you think about the required testing? Any suggestion for a
specifically crafted micro benchmark in addition to standard
ebizzy/kernbench/...?

Additionally, I see another option for us: enable 'rcu table free' on
boot (e.g. by taking tlb_remove_table to pv_ops and doing boot-time
patching for it) so bare metal and other hypervisors are not affected
by the change.

-- 
  Vitaly

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-14 13:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-02 16:09 [PATCH v10 0/9] Hyper-V: paravirtualized remote TLB flushing and hypercall improvements Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-02 16:09 ` [PATCH v10 1/9] x86/hyper-v: include hyperv/ only when CONFIG_HYPERV is set Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-10 16:37   ` [tip:x86/platform] x86/hyper-v: Include " tip-bot for Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-02 16:09 ` [PATCH v10 2/9] x86/hyper-v: make hv_do_hypercall() inline Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-10 16:37   ` [tip:x86/platform] x86/hyper-v: Make " tip-bot for Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-02 16:09 ` [PATCH v10 3/9] x86/hyper-v: fast hypercall implementation Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-10 16:37   ` [tip:x86/platform] x86/hyper-v: Introduce " tip-bot for Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-02 16:09 ` [PATCH v10 4/9] hyper-v: use fast hypercall for HVCALL_SIGNAL_EVENT Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-10 16:38   ` [tip:x86/platform] hyper-v: Use " tip-bot for Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-02 16:09 ` [PATCH v10 5/9] x86/hyper-v: implement rep hypercalls Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-10 16:38   ` [tip:x86/platform] x86/hyper-v: Implement " tip-bot for Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-02 16:09 ` [PATCH v10 6/9] hyper-v: globalize vp_index Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-10 16:39   ` [tip:x86/platform] hyper-v: Globalize vp_index tip-bot for Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-02 16:09 ` [PATCH v10 7/9] x86/hyper-v: use hypercall for remote TLB flush Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-10 16:39   ` [tip:x86/platform] x86/hyper-v: Use " tip-bot for Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-10 18:21   ` tip-bot for Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-10 18:56     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-10 18:59       ` KY Srinivasan
2017-08-10 19:08         ` Jork Loeser
2017-08-10 19:27           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-11  1:15             ` Jork Loeser
2017-08-11  9:03               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-11 11:29                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-08-11 16:16                 ` Linus Torvalds
2017-08-11 16:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-14 13:20                     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov [this message]
2017-08-16 16:42                       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-16 21:41                         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2017-08-17  7:58                           ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-11  9:23             ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-11 10:56               ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-11 11:05                 ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2017-08-11 12:07                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-16  0:02                     ` Steven Rostedt
2017-08-11 12:22                 ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-11 12:35                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-11 12:46                     ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-11 12:54                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-11 13:07                         ` Juergen Gross
2017-08-11 13:39                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-02 16:09 ` [PATCH v10 8/9] x86/hyper-v: support extended CPU ranges for TLB flush hypercalls Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-31 20:01   ` [tip:x86/platform] x86/hyper-v: Support " tip-bot for Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-02 16:09 ` [PATCH v10 9/9] tracing/hyper-v: trace hyperv_mmu_flush_tlb_others() Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-31 20:01   ` [tip:x86/platform] tracing/hyper-v: Trace hyperv_mmu_flush_tlb_others() tip-bot for Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-10 11:58 ` [PATCH v10 0/9] Hyper-V: paravirtualized remote TLB flushing and hypercall improvements Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-10 15:12   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-08-10 15:17     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-10 16:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-08-10 17:00   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-31 11:43 ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-31 12:22   ` Ingo Molnar
2017-08-31 14:53     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-08-31 20:01       ` Ingo Molnar
2017-11-06  8:43 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-06  9:14   ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-11-06  9:57     ` Wanpeng Li
2017-11-06 10:10       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
2017-11-06 11:07         ` Wanpeng Li

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