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From: Robert Jarzmik <robert.jarzmik@intel.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "Berthier\, Emmanuel" <emmanuel.berthier@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Jarzmik\, Robert" <robert.jarzmik@intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] [LBR] Dump LBRs on Exception
Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2014 11:31:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fvctnk7c.fsf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWr=6BnQ7r4KYDVJzeNPO-pxk9wRmkkLy+mM1T_85Y=jw@mail.gmail.com> (Andy Lutomirski's message of "Thu, 4 Dec 2014 10:09:53 -0800")

Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net> writes:

> I don't really care about the number of instructions.
Right, a couple of test/jz/jnz is negligible in the exception path, that's what
I also think.

>  But there are still all the nasty cases:
>
>  - Context switch during exception processing (both in the C handler
> and in the retint code).
>  - PMI during exception processing.
>  - Exception while perf is poking at LBR msrs.

Yes.
Wasn't that what Thomas's suggestion on the per-cpu variable was solving ?
Ie:
        DEFINE_PER_CPU(unsigned long, lbr_dump_state) = LBR_OOPS_DISABLED;
        ...

We would have a "LBR resource" variable to track who owns the LBR :
 - nobody : LBR_UNCLAIMED
 - the exception handler : LBR_EXCEPTION_DEBUG_USAGE
   - activated with a runtime variable or config
   - impossible to activate if perf has hold of it
 - the perf code : LBR_PERF_USAGE
   - activated through perf infrastructure
   - impossible to activated if exception handler has hold of it

Now this solves the perf/exception concurrency on the LBR registers. If there is
a rescheduling during the exception, or a PMI, can that have an impact ?
 - case 1: nobody is handling LBR
   => no impact, expception handlers won't touch LBR
 - case 2: perf is handling LBR
   => no imppact, exception handler won't touch LBR

 - case 3: exception handlers are handling LBR

   - case 3a: simple user exception
       -> exception entry
       -> is kernel exception == false => bypass LBR handling
       -> exception handling

   - case 3b: simple kernel exception
       -> exception entry
       -> test lbr_dump_state == EXCEPTION_OWNED => true => STOP LBR
       -> no reschedule, no PMI
       -> exception handling
       -> test lbr_dump_state == EXCEPTION_OWNED => true => START LBR

   - case 3c: kernel exception with PMI
       -> exception entry
       -> test lbr_dump_state == EXCEPTION_OWNED => true => STOP LBR
       -> PMI
          can't touch LBR, as lbr_dump_state == EXCEPTION_OWNED
       -> exception handling
       -> test lbr_dump_state == EXCEPTION_OWNED => true => START LBR

   - case 3d: kernel exception with a reschedule inside
       -> exception entry
       -> test lbr_dump_state == EXCEPTION_OWNED => true => STOP LBR
       -> exception handling
       -> context_switch()
          -> perf cannot touch LBR, nobody can
       -> test lbr_dump_state == EXCEPTION_OWNED => true => START LBR

I might be very wrong in the description as I'm not that sharp on x86, but is
there a flaw in the above cases ?

If not, a couple of tests and Thomas's per-cpu variable can solve the issue,
while keeping the exception handler code simple as Emmanual has proposed (given
the additionnal test inclusion - which will be designed to not pollute the LBR),
and having a small impact on perf to solve the resource acquire issue.

Cheers.

--
Robert

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-12-06 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-21 17:03 [PATCH] [LBR] Dump LBRs on Oops Emmanuel Berthier
2014-11-22  0:50 ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-26 10:56   ` Berthier, Emmanuel
2014-11-26 13:08     ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-26 14:17       ` Berthier, Emmanuel
2014-11-26 14:46         ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-26 15:43           ` Berthier, Emmanuel
2014-11-27 14:40             ` [PATCH v2] [LBR] Dump LBRs on Exception Emmanuel Berthier
2014-11-27 21:22               ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-11-27 21:56                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-28  8:44                   ` Berthier, Emmanuel
2014-11-28 15:15                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 19:09                       ` Berthier, Emmanuel
2014-12-02 19:33                         ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-02 19:56                           ` Thomas Gleixner
2014-12-02 20:12                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-03 18:25                               ` Berthier, Emmanuel
2014-12-03 19:29                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-04 16:01                                   ` Berthier, Emmanuel
2014-12-04 18:09                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-05 13:14                                       ` Berthier, Emmanuel
2014-12-06 10:31                                       ` Robert Jarzmik [this message]
     [not found]                                         ` <CALCETrXhfzd9Fkikvm5qj0LWgWtDzgdpY_0EC3ChwyyGZksTMw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-12-07 18:40                                           ` Robert Jarzmik
2014-12-07 19:10                                             ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-12-12 17:30                                               ` Berthier, Emmanuel
2014-12-12 17:54                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2014-11-28 10:28                 ` Berthier, Emmanuel

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