From: Kevin Hilman <khilman@ti.com>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: Linux PM mailing list <linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@suse.de>,
Magnus Damm <magnus.damm@gmail.com>,
Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/10 v6] PM / Domains: Don't stop wakeup devices during system sleep transitions
Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2011 16:50:35 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87fwmsnqno.fsf@ti.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201106252329.24342.rjw@sisk.pl> (Rafael J. Wysocki's message of "Sat, 25 Jun 2011 23:29:24 +0200")
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl> writes:
> From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl>
>
> Devices that are set up to wake up the system from sleep states
> should not be stopped and power should not be removed from them
> when the system goes into a sleep state.
I don't think this belongs in the generic layer since the two
assumptions above are not generally true on embedded systems, and would
result in rather significant power consumption unnecessarily.
First, whether the device should be stopped on device_may_wakeup():
Some IP blocks (at least on OMAP) have "asynchronous" wakeups. Meaning
that they can generate wakeups even when they're not clocked (a.k.a
stopped). So in this case, even after a ->stop_device (which clock
gates the IP), it can still generate wakeups.
Second, whether the device should be powered off if device_may_wakeup():
Embedded SoCs have other ways to wakeup than device-level wakeups.
For example, on OMAP, every pad on the SoC can be configured as a wakeup
source So, for example, you could completely power down the UART IP
blocks (and the enclosing power domain), configure the UART RX pad as a
wakeup source, and still wakeup the system on UART activity. The OMAP
docs call these IO pad wakeups.
On OMAP in fact, this is the common, default behavior when we enable
"off-mode" in idle and/or suspend, since most of the IPs are powered off
but can still wake up the system.
So in summary, even if device_may_wakeup() is true, many devices (with
additional SoC magic) can still generate wakeups even when stopped and
powered off.
Kevin
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-06-29 23:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-06-11 20:23 [PATCH 0/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:25 ` [PATCH 1/8] PM / Domains: Update documentation Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:26 ` [PATCH 2/8] PM / Domains: Rename struct dev_power_domain to struct dev_pm_domain Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-20 23:37 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-11 20:27 ` [PATCH 3/8] PM: subsys_data in struct dev_pm_info need not depend on RM_RUNTIME Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:31 ` [PATCH 4/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-19 22:02 ` [Update][PATCH 4/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v6) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-21 17:42 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-22 0:07 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-22 19:51 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-22 21:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:36 ` [PATCH 5/8] PM: Introduce generic "noirq" callback routines for subsystems Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:37 ` [PATCH 6/8] PM / Domains: Move code from under #ifdef CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:39 ` [PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic PM domains Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 23:28 ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-19 22:06 ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v3) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-20 23:05 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-22 21:50 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-22 22:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-22 22:18 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-22 22:22 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-23 13:57 ` [PATCH] PM / Runtime: Update documentation of interactions with system sleep Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-24 18:25 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-23 14:19 ` [Update][PATCH 7/8] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v3) Alan Stern
2011-06-23 14:44 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-23 15:11 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-23 17:41 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-23 18:22 ` Alan Stern
2011-06-23 21:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-11 20:40 ` [PATCH 8/8] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O PM domains for SH7372 (v5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-14 13:12 ` Magnus Damm
2011-06-14 21:16 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-15 14:17 ` Magnus Damm
2011-06-15 23:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-19 22:07 ` [Update][PATCH 8/8] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O power domains for SH7372 (v6) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-20 2:01 ` Paul Mundt
2011-06-20 22:30 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-21 11:57 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-21 12:47 ` Paul Mundt
2011-07-10 11:45 ` [PATCH 8/8] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O PM domains for SH7372 (v5) Laurent Pinchart
2011-06-11 20:57 ` [PATCH 0/8] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v5) Greg KH
2011-06-21 0:02 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-21 11:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-21 14:47 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-25 21:24 ` [PATCH 0/10 v6] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:24 ` [PATCH 1/10 v6] PM / Domains: Rename struct dev_power_domain to struct dev_pm_domain Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:25 ` [PATCH 2/10 v6] PM: subsys_data in struct dev_pm_info need not depend on RM_RUNTIME Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:26 ` [PATCH 3/10 v6] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains (v7) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-30 6:14 ` Ming Lei
2011-06-30 18:58 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 18:11 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-01 20:03 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:27 ` [PATCH 4/10 v6] PM: Introduce generic "noirq" callback routines for subsystems (v2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:27 ` [PATCH 5/10 v6] PM / Domains: Move code from under #ifdef CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME (v2) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:28 ` [PATCH 6/10 v6] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v4) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-28 23:44 ` [Update][PATCH 6/10] PM / Domains: System-wide transitions support for generic domains (v5) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-08 0:29 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-08 9:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-08 14:37 ` Alan Stern
2011-07-08 17:20 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-08 18:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-08 19:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-09 14:15 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-11 15:37 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-11 19:39 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-08 17:56 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:29 ` [PATCH 7/10 v6] PM / Domains: Don't stop wakeup devices during system sleep transitions Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-29 23:50 ` Kevin Hilman [this message]
2011-06-30 19:37 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-30 22:42 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-30 22:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-30 23:14 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-30 23:28 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 0:01 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-07-01 0:24 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 14:34 ` Kevin Hilman
2011-06-30 23:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 14:45 ` Alan Stern
2011-07-01 20:06 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:30 ` [PATCH 8/10 v6] PM: Allow the clocks management code to be used during system suspend Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:30 ` [PATCH 9/10 v6] PM: Rename clock management functions Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-25 21:31 ` [PATCH 10/10 v6] ARM / shmobile: Support for I/O power domains for SH7372 (v8) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-27 4:07 ` Magnus Damm
2011-06-27 19:25 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-06-27 23:21 ` Magnus Damm
2011-06-28 10:08 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-07-01 18:27 ` [PATCH 0/10 v6] PM / Domains: Support for generic I/O PM domains Kevin Hilman
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