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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Nam Cao <namcao@linutronix.de>,
	Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/12] io_uring: Use helper function hrtimer_update_function()
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2025 22:48:45 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h656n3r6.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4f317ca3-0ffd-4ee0-9da6-8b80a6366d0f@kernel.dk>

On Thu, Feb 06 2025 at 13:05, Jens Axboe wrote:
> On 2/6/25 9:18 AM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Wed, Feb 05 2025 at 11:45, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>> On 2/5/25 3:55 AM, Nam Cao wrote:
>>>> diff --git a/io_uring/io_uring.c b/io_uring/io_uring.c
>>>> index ceacf6230e34..936f8b4106cf 100644
>>>> --- a/io_uring/io_uring.c
>>>> +++ b/io_uring/io_uring.c
>>>> @@ -2421,7 +2421,7 @@ static enum hrtimer_restart io_cqring_min_timer_wakeup(struct hrtimer *timer)
>>>>  			goto out_wake;
>>>>  	}
>>>>  
>>>> -	iowq->t.function = io_cqring_timer_wakeup;
>>>> +	hrtimer_update_function(&iowq->t, io_cqring_timer_wakeup);
>>>>  	hrtimer_set_expires(timer, iowq->timeout);
>>>>  	return HRTIMER_RESTART;
>>>>  out_wake:
>>>
>>> The timer is known expired here, it's inside the callback. Is this
>>> really necessary or useful?
>> 
>> It's not strictly required here, but in the end this allows to make the
>> .function member private, which prevents stupid code fiddling with it
>> without proper sanity checks in the debug case.
>
> While that makes sense, this is also a potentially hot path for min
> timeout usage, which with small timeouts for batch/latency reasons
> can be run tens of thousand times per second. Adding a lock and IRQ
> dance would be counter productive.

I fundamentally hate the fact that C does not enforce encapsulation in
the first place. :)

> How about we just add a comment on why this is fine, rather than

Comments are the worst of a solution as you know.

> slow down a case that's perfectly fine by wrapping it in something
> much more expensive than a simple memory write? Or perhaps have
> a basic helper to set it that doesn't do the unnecessary irq lock
> guard? That would still allow you to make .function private.

The right solution is to add a hotpath helper, which falls back to the
more expensive variant with some anyway expensive debug option, or make
the expensive part of hrtimer_update_function() depend on that debug
option in the first place and otherwise fall back to a simple store.

The latter is the right thing to do. Let me fix that up in mainline.

Thanks,

        tglx



  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-06 21:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-05 10:55 [PATCH v2 00/12] Consolidate hrtimer initialization - Part 5 Nam Cao
2025-02-05 10:55 ` [PATCH v2 01/12] hrtimers: Delete hrtimer_init() Nam Cao
2025-02-05 10:55 ` [PATCH v2 02/12] hrtimers: Switch to use __htimer_setup() Nam Cao
2025-02-05 10:55 ` [PATCH v2 03/12] hrtimers: Merge __hrtimer_init() into __hrtimer_setup() Nam Cao
2025-02-05 10:55 ` [PATCH v2 04/12] serial: xilinx_uartps: Use helper function hrtimer_update_function() Nam Cao
2025-02-05 10:55 ` [PATCH v2 05/12] io_uring: " Nam Cao
2025-02-05 18:45   ` Jens Axboe
2025-02-06 16:18     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-02-06 20:05       ` Jens Axboe
2025-02-06 21:48         ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2025-02-07 17:46           ` Jens Axboe
2025-02-07 21:16             ` [PATCH] hrtimers: Make hrtimer_update_function() less expensive Thomas Gleixner
2025-02-08 15:18               ` Jens Axboe
2025-02-10 19:52                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-02-10 19:56                   ` Jens Axboe
2025-02-10 20:05               ` [tip: timers/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2025-02-05 10:55 ` [PATCH v2 06/12] wifi: rt2x00: Switch to use hrtimer_update_function() Nam Cao
2025-02-05 10:55 ` [PATCH v2 07/12] hrtimers: Make callback function pointer private Nam Cao
2025-02-05 10:55 ` [PATCH v2 08/12] hrtimers: Remove unnecessary NULL check in hrtimer_start_range_ns() Nam Cao
2025-02-05 10:55 ` [PATCH v2 09/12] hrtimers: Rename __hrtimer_init_sleeper() to __hrtimer_setup_sleeper() Nam Cao
2025-02-05 10:55 ` [PATCH v2 10/12] hrtimers: Rename debug_init() to debug_setup() Nam Cao
2025-02-05 10:55 ` [PATCH v2 11/12] hrtimers: Rename debug_init_on_stack() to debug_setup_on_stack() Nam Cao
2025-02-05 10:55 ` [PATCH v2 12/12] tracing/timers: Rename hrtimer_init event to hrtimer_setup Nam Cao

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