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From: Daniel Axtens <dja@axtens.net>
To: Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com>
Cc: Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>,
	kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	HATAYAMA Daisuke <d.hatayama@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>,
	Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC] kernel/panic: place an upper limit on number of oopses
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 11:33:56 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87h9ii5nd7.fsf@gamma.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160113002043.GA17146@openwall.com>

Solar Designer <solar@openwall.com> writes:

> Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net> wrote:
>> To prevent an attacker from turning a mostly harmless oops into an
>> exploitable issue using a refcounter wraparound caused by repeated
>> oopsing, limit the number of oopses.
>
> This may also reduce the likelihood of successful exploitation of some
> other vulnerabilities involving memory corruption, where an unsuccessful
> attempt may inadvertently trigger an Oops.  The attacker would then need
> to succeed in fewer than the maximum allowed number of Oops'es.  Jann's
> currently proposed default of 0x100000 is too high to make a difference
> in that respect, but people may set it differently.
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 10:34:39AM +1100, Daniel Axtens wrote:
>> I'm torn between making the limit configurable and not adding to the
>> massive proliferation of config options.
>
> What about reusing panic_on_oops for the configurable limit?  The
> currently supported values of 0 and 1 would retain their meaning,
> 2 would panic after 2nd Oops, and so on.

I thought about this, then I looked at where panic_on_oops was used and
I thought it would be a pretty invasive change. I'm also nervous about
changing the semantics of panic_on_oops under people...

>
> There's overlap with grsecurity's banning of users on Oops, but I think
> it makes sense to have both the trivial change proposed by Jann (perhaps
> with the reuse of panic_on_oops for configuration) and grsecurity-style
> banning (maybe with a low configurable limit, rather than always on
> first Oops).
>
> Alexander

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-13  0:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 7+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-12 19:25 [RFC] kernel/panic: place an upper limit on number of oopses Jann Horn
2016-01-12 23:34 ` Daniel Axtens
2016-01-12 23:51   ` Jann Horn
2016-01-13  0:20   ` Solar Designer
2016-01-13  0:33     ` Daniel Axtens [this message]
2016-01-13 18:08     ` Jann Horn
2016-01-17  3:58       ` [kernel-hardening] " Jann Horn

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