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From: Alan Shutko <ats@acm.org>
To: "Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, davem@redhat.com, hpa@transmeta.com
Subject: Re: hotmail not dealing with ECN
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 13:15:28 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87hf2mw56n.fsf@wesley.springies.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200101261753.JAA11559@adam.yggdrasil.com>
In-Reply-To: <200101261753.JAA11559@adam.yggdrasil.com>

"Adam J. Richter" <adam@yggdrasil.com> writes:

> 	I am surprised that anyone is seriously considering denying
> service to sites that do not implement an _experimental_ facility
> and have firewalls that try to play things safe by dropping packets
> which have 1's in bit positions that in the RFC "must be zero."

I don't think people are seriously worried whether site implement ECN
right now.

But it would be much nicer to those that _want_ to implement it were
fascist firewalls to set those bits to zero, rather than sending RSTs
back or dripping the packet.  

-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2001-01-26 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-01-26 17:53 hotmail not dealing with ECN Adam J. Richter
2001-01-26 17:57 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 18:15 ` Alan Shutko [this message]
2001-01-26 18:32 ` Graham Murray
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-01-27 18:55 Bernd Eckenfels
     [not found] <980523239.30846@whiskey.enposte.net>
2001-01-26 21:52 ` Stuart Lynne
2001-01-26 21:59   ` Michael H. Warfield
2001-01-27  9:48     ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-26 17:14 James Sutherland
2001-01-26 23:25 ` Daniel Chemko
2001-01-26 19:43   ` Chris Meadors
2001-01-29 14:57     ` Thunder from the hill
2001-01-26 16:04 Randal, Phil
2001-01-26 16:37 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 17:18   ` Tony Hoyle
2001-01-26 18:42     ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-01-31 16:45     ` Alan Cox
2001-01-26 17:28 ` Miquel van Smoorenburg
2001-01-26 21:21 ` David Ford
2001-01-29  9:42 ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-26  7:53 Bernd Eckenfels
2001-01-25 17:26 Bernd Eckenfels
2001-01-25  5:43 Jeremy Hansen
2001-01-25  7:37 ` Juri Haberland
2001-01-25  9:06   ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26  1:12   ` Lincoln Dale
2001-01-25 23:31 ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26  1:30   ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26  1:38     ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26  1:43       ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26  1:49         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26  2:10           ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26  2:15             ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26  8:54               ` Helge Hafting
2001-01-26 18:04                 ` Rick Jones
2001-01-27  7:11                   ` Rusty Russell
2001-01-31 10:56                   ` Alan Cox
2001-01-27  4:10                 ` David Wagner
2001-01-27  4:59                   ` Brian May
2001-01-27 18:18                   ` Frank v Waveren
2001-01-27 19:20                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-27 19:22                       ` Frank v Waveren
2001-01-27 19:58                       ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-27 20:14                         ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-27 22:18                           ` David Schwartz
2001-01-27 23:09                             ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28  0:11                               ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28  1:10                                 ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-28  8:48                                 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-28  0:06                             ` Gregory Maxwell
2001-01-28  3:27                               ` David Schwartz
2001-01-28  0:58                     ` David Lang
2001-01-26  2:24             ` Johannes Erdfelt
2001-01-26  3:03             ` Brian May
2001-01-26  5:06             ` Jeremy M. Dolan
2001-01-26 14:04               ` Florian Weimer
2001-01-27 10:00           ` Rogier Wolff
2001-01-31 10:46           ` Alan Cox
2001-01-26 10:37     ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-26 11:32       ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 11:40         ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 11:44           ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 13:44             ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 14:44               ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 15:03                 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 15:14                   ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 15:24                     ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 15:16                   ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-26 15:27                     ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 22:26                       ` Dominik Kubla
2001-01-26 22:30                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-26 15:35                     ` Marian Jancar
2001-01-26 16:28                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2001-01-28  1:59                   ` Dax Kelson
2001-01-28 16:51                     ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 11:50           ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 13:52             ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 13:54               ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:12                 ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 15:08                 ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 15:13                   ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 15:29                     ` James Sutherland
2001-01-26 15:55                       ` Chris Ricker
2001-01-26 18:37                         ` Henning P. Schmiedehausen
2001-01-26 19:17                           ` Matti Aarnio
2001-01-26 19:55                       ` Jeremy M. Dolan
2001-01-26 15:34                     ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 17:37                   ` Drago Goricanec
2001-01-26 14:11               ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 18:19                 ` Olaf Titz
2001-01-26 14:10             ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-26 14:39               ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:46                 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2001-01-26 14:50                   ` David S. Miller
2001-01-26 14:57                     ` Jamie Lokier
2001-01-27  0:18             ` Thunder from the hill
2001-01-27  0:15           ` Thunder from the hill

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