From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>, Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>,
x86@kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Subject: Re: [patch V2 28/37] rseq: Switch to fast path processing on exit to user
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2025 20:36:55 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iki0zooo.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02e74cef-f2fe-4590-8921-ef4df2b24786@efficios.com>
On Wed, Aug 27 2025 at 09:45, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> On 2025-08-26 11:40, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>>> RSEQ selftests Before After Reduction
>>>
>>> exit to user: 386281778 387373750
>>> signal checks: 35661203 0 100%
>>> slowpath runs: 140542396 36.38% 100 0.00% 100%
>>> fastpath runs: 9509789 2.51% N/A
>>> id updates: 176203599 45.62% 9087994 2.35% 95%
>>> cs checks: 175587856 45.46% 4728394 1.22% 98%
>>> cs cleared: 172359544 98.16% 1319307 27.90% 99%
>>> cs fixup: 3228312 1.84% 3409087 72.10%
>
> By the way, you should really not be using the entire rseq selftests
> as a representative workload for profiling the kernel rseq implementation.
>
> Those selftests include "loop injection", "yield injection", "kill
> injection" and "sleep injection" within the relevant userspace code
> paths, which really increase the likelihood of hitting stuff like
> "cs fixup" compared to anything that comes close to a realistic
> use-case. This is really useful for testing correctness, but not
> for profiling. For instance, the "loop injection" introduces busy
> loops within rseq critical sections to significantly increase the
> likelihood of hitting a cs fixup.
>
> Those specific selftests are really just "stress-tests" that don't
> represent any relevant workload.
True, they still tell how much useless work the kernel was doing, no?
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-02 18:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-23 16:39 [patch V2 00/37] rseq: Optimize exit to user space Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 01/37] rseq: Avoid pointless evaluation in __rseq_notify_resume() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 02/37] rseq: Condense the inline stubs Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 03/37] resq: Move algorithm comment to top Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 04/37] rseq: Remove the ksig argument from rseq_handle_notify_resume() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 05/37] rseq: Simplify registration Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 06/37] rseq: Simplify the event notification Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 17:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 07/37] rseq, virt: Retrigger RSEQ after vcpu_run() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 17:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-25 20:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02 15:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 08/37] rseq: Avoid CPU/MM CID updates when no event pending Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 09/37] rseq: Introduce struct rseq_event Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 10/37] entry: Cleanup header Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 11/37] entry: Remove syscall_enter_from_user_mode_prepare() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 12/37] entry: Inline irqentry_enter/exit_from/to_user_mode() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 13/37] sched: Move MM CID related functions to sched.h Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 14/37] rseq: Cache CPU ID and MM CID values Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 15/37] rseq: Record interrupt from user space Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 16/37] rseq: Provide tracepoint wrappers for inline code Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 17/37] rseq: Expose lightweight statistics in debugfs Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 18/37] rseq: Provide static branch for runtime debugging Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-25 20:30 ` Michael Jeanson
2025-09-02 13:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 19/37] rseq: Provide and use rseq_update_user_cs() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 19:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 15:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 20/37] rseq: Replace the debug crud Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 14:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 21/37] rseq: Make exit debugging static branch based Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 14:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 22/37] rseq: Use static branch for syscall exit debug when GENERIC_IRQ_ENTRY=y Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 14:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 23/37] rseq: Provide and use rseq_set_uids() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 14:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 14:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-02 16:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 24/37] rseq: Seperate the signal delivery path Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 25/37] rseq: Rework the TIF_NOTIFY handler Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 17:32 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 9:52 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-04 10:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 26/37] rseq: Optimize event setting Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 14:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 27/37] rseq: Implement fast path for exit to user Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 18:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 28/37] rseq: Switch to fast path processing on " Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-27 13:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 18:36 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2025-09-04 17:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 29/37] entry: Split up exit_to_user_mode_prepare() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 30/37] rseq: Split up rseq_exit_to_user_mode() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 31/37] asm-generic: Provide generic TIF infrastructure Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 20:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-08-25 19:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 32/37] x86: Use generic TIF bits Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 19:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 33/37] s390: " Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 34/37] loongarch: " Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 35/37] riscv: " Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 36/37] rseq: Switch to TIF_RSEQ if supported Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 19:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-25 20:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02 11:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 10:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-04 12:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 37/37] entry/rseq: Optimize for TIF_RSEQ on exit Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 19:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-25 15:10 ` [patch V2 00/37] rseq: Optimize exit to user space Mathieu Desnoyers
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