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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
	Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>, Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
	Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
	Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
	Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Subject: Re: [patch V2 28/37] rseq: Switch to fast path processing on exit to user
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2025 20:36:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87iki0zooo.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02e74cef-f2fe-4590-8921-ef4df2b24786@efficios.com>

On Wed, Aug 27 2025 at 09:45, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> On 2025-08-26 11:40, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>>>    RSEQ selftests      Before          After              Reduction
>>>
>>>    exit to user:       386281778          387373750
>>>    signal checks:       35661203                  0           100%
>>>    slowpath runs:      140542396 36.38%            100  0.00%    100%
>>>    fastpath runs:                         9509789  2.51%     N/A
>>>    id updates:         176203599 45.62%        9087994  2.35%     95%
>>>    cs checks:          175587856 45.46%        4728394  1.22%     98%
>>>      cs cleared:       172359544   98.16%    1319307   27.90%   99%
>>>      cs fixup:           3228312    1.84%    3409087   72.10%
>
> By the way, you should really not be using the entire rseq selftests
> as a representative workload for profiling the kernel rseq implementation.
>
> Those selftests include "loop injection", "yield injection", "kill
> injection" and "sleep injection" within the relevant userspace code
> paths, which really increase the likelihood of hitting stuff like
> "cs fixup" compared to anything that comes close to a realistic
> use-case. This is really useful for testing correctness, but not
> for profiling. For instance, the "loop injection" introduces busy
> loops within rseq critical sections to significantly increase the
> likelihood of hitting a cs fixup.
>
> Those specific selftests are really just "stress-tests" that don't
> represent any relevant workload.

True, they still tell how much useless work the kernel was doing, no?


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-02 18:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-23 16:39 [patch V2 00/37] rseq: Optimize exit to user space Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 01/37] rseq: Avoid pointless evaluation in __rseq_notify_resume() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:39   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 02/37] rseq: Condense the inline stubs Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:40   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 03/37] resq: Move algorithm comment to top Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:41   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 04/37] rseq: Remove the ksig argument from rseq_handle_notify_resume() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:43   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 05/37] rseq: Simplify registration Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:44   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 06/37] rseq: Simplify the event notification Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 17:36   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:39     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:19       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 07/37] rseq, virt: Retrigger RSEQ after vcpu_run() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 17:54   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-25 20:24     ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02 15:37       ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 08/37] rseq: Avoid CPU/MM CID updates when no event pending Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:02   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:41     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:20       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 09/37] rseq: Introduce struct rseq_event Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:11   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:45     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 10/37] entry: Cleanup header Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:13   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 11/37] entry: Remove syscall_enter_from_user_mode_prepare() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 12/37] entry: Inline irqentry_enter/exit_from/to_user_mode() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 13/37] sched: Move MM CID related functions to sched.h Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:14   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 14/37] rseq: Cache CPU ID and MM CID values Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:19   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:48     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:21       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 15/37] rseq: Record interrupt from user space Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:29   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:54     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 16/37] rseq: Provide tracepoint wrappers for inline code Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:32   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 17/37] rseq: Expose lightweight statistics in debugfs Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:34   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 18/37] rseq: Provide static branch for runtime debugging Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:36   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-25 20:30   ` Michael Jeanson
2025-09-02 13:56     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 19/37] rseq: Provide and use rseq_update_user_cs() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 19:16   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 15:19     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 20/37] rseq: Replace the debug crud Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 14:21   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 21/37] rseq: Make exit debugging static branch based Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 14:23   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 22/37] rseq: Use static branch for syscall exit debug when GENERIC_IRQ_ENTRY=y Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 14:28   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 23/37] rseq: Provide and use rseq_set_uids() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 14:52   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 14:08     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-02 16:33       ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:25         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 24/37] rseq: Seperate the signal delivery path Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:08   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 25/37] rseq: Rework the TIF_NOTIFY handler Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:12   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 17:32     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04  9:52       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-04 10:53         ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:07           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 26/37] rseq: Optimize event setting Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:26   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 14:17     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 27/37] rseq: Implement fast path for exit to user Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:33   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 18:31     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 28/37] rseq: Switch to fast path processing on " Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:40   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-27 13:45     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 18:36       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2025-09-04 17:54         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 29/37] entry: Split up exit_to_user_mode_prepare() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:41   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 30/37] rseq: Split up rseq_exit_to_user_mode() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:45   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 31/37] asm-generic: Provide generic TIF infrastructure Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 20:37   ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-08-25 19:33   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 32/37] x86: Use generic TIF bits Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 19:34   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 33/37] s390: " Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 34/37] loongarch: " Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 35/37] riscv: " Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 36/37] rseq: Switch to TIF_RSEQ if supported Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 19:39   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-25 20:02   ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02 11:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 10:08       ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-04 12:26         ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 37/37] entry/rseq: Optimize for TIF_RSEQ on exit Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 19:43   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-25 15:10 ` [patch V2 00/37] rseq: Optimize exit to user space Mathieu Desnoyers

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