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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Anna-Maria Behnsen" <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
	"Guangbo Cui" <2407018371@qq.com>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@gmail.com>,
	"Daniel Almeida" <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 02/14] rust: hrtimer: introduce hrtimer support
Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2025 14:17:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ikp3e8t6.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJ-ks9mfe3JBVALO6RJPie6Ae1afH7jsE5jR1jWo_sK266_XPQ@mail.gmail.com> (Tamir Duberstein's message of "Fri, 21 Feb 2025 08:04:40 -0500")

"Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, Feb 21, 2025 at 3:20 AM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> "Tamir Duberstein" <tamird@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>> > On Thu, Feb 20, 2025 at 4:19 PM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> >> >> +pub unsafe trait HrTimerHandle {
>> >> >> +    /// Cancel the timer, if it is running. If the timer handler is running, block
>> >> >> +    /// till the handler has finished.
>> >> >> +    fn cancel(&mut self) -> bool;
>> >> >> +}
>> >> >> +
>> >> >> +/// Implemented by structs that contain timer nodes.
>> >> >> +///
>> >> >> +/// Clients of the timer API would usually safely implement this trait by using
>> >> >> +/// the [`crate::impl_has_hr_timer`] macro.
>> >> >> +///
>> >> >> +/// # Safety
>> >> >> +///
>> >> >> +/// Implementers of this trait must ensure that the implementer has a [`HrTimer`]
>> >> >> +/// field at the offset specified by `OFFSET` and that all trait methods are
>> >> >> +/// implemented according to their documentation.
>> >> >> +///
>> >> >> +/// [`impl_has_timer`]: crate::impl_has_timer
>> >> >> +pub unsafe trait HasHrTimer<T> {
>> >> >> +    /// Offset of the [`HrTimer`] field within `Self`
>> >> >> +    const OFFSET: usize;
>> >> >
>> >> > Does this need to be part of the trait? As an alternative the provided
>> >> > methods could be generated in the macro below and reduce the
>> >> > opportunity to implement this trait incorrectly.
>> >>
>> >> There is no risk of implementing the trait wrong, because it is usually
>> >> derived by a macro.
>> >
>> > There's no risk when it's implemented by the macro, but you used the
>> > word usually,  which means there is a risk.
>> >
>> >> We need at least one of the methods to be able to have the type system
>> >> verify that the type for which we implement `HasHrTImer` actually has a
>> >> field with the name we specify, and that this field has the right type.
>> >> And to have that, we need the OFFSET.
>> >
>> > I don't follow this logic. OFFSET is calculated in the body of the
>> > macro. I'm suggesting that the macro generate the method
>> > implementations (which would no longer be provided). In effect I'm
>> > saying: keep OFFSET private.
>> >
>> > I'm also noticing now that the macro generates an implementation of
>> > raw_get_timer *in addition to* the provided implementation. Why are
>> > both needed?
>>
>> HasHrTimer is unsafe, because it would be unsound to implement, if the
>> type it is implemented on does not have a `Timer` at the specified
>> offset.
>>
>> To be able to implement it safely with a macro, the macro must verify
>> that the type we implement the trait on satisfies the safety
>> requirement. That is, we have to have the macro verify that the type
>> indeed has a field of type `Timer` with the given name. If that is the
>> case, the macro can calculate OFFSET.
>>
>> The way we achieve this is we re-implement on of the trait methods in
>> such a way that it only compiles if the type we reimplement trait
>> on actually have the field of the right type.
>>
>> I want to generate as little code as possible in the macro, and I would
>> rather rely on the default implementations given in the trait, than have
>> the macro generate implementations for all the methods. Generated code
>> are more difficult to reason about.
>
> Again, I don't follow. The provided implementation of raw_get_timer is
> either not used (in the presence of the macro) or it relies on the
> implementer correctly setting OFFSET, which the compiler cannot check
> and which can break at a distance.
>
> Wouldn't it be simpler to just generate both functions that rely on
> OFFSET? They're both one-liners that delegate to other existing
> macros.

No, I would rather generate as little code as possible. The only reason
I am generating `raw_get_timer` is to be able to type check that the
field name given to the macro has the right type.


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg



  reply	other threads:[~2025-02-21 13:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2025-02-18 13:27 ` [PATCH v8 00/14] hrtimer Rust API Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 01/14] rust: time: Add Ktime::from_ns() Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-19 11:58     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-19 14:53       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 02/14] rust: hrtimer: introduce hrtimer support Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 17:04     ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-20 21:18       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 21:37         ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21  8:19           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 13:04             ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 13:17               ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-02-21 14:19                 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21  8:36           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 13:14             ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 13:28             ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 14:21               ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-22 18:25                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22 18:41                   ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 14:40               ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-21 14:46                 ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 15:19                   ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-21 19:46                     ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-21 22:37                       ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-22  1:08                         ` Tamir Duberstein
2025-02-22  1:38                           ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-22  9:25                     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22 11:40                       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22 21:25                         ` Boqun Feng
2025-02-20 23:46     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:03       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 10:15         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 11:05           ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21 12:17             ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22  9:37               ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-22 11:27                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21  9:05       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 11:29       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-02-21 11:44         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 03/14] rust: sync: add `Arc::as_ptr` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:18     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 04/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `HrTimerPointer` for `Arc` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 05/14] rust: hrtimer: allow timer restart from timer handler Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:47     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:09       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 10:15         ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 06/14] rust: hrtimer: add `UnsafeHrTimerPointer` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:18     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 07/14] rust: hrtimer: add `hrtimer::ScopedHrTimerPointer` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 08/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `UnsafeHrTimerPointer` for `Pin<&T>` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 09/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `UnsafeHrTimerPointer` for `Pin<&mut T>` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 10/14] rust: alloc: add `Box::into_pin` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:20     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:10       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 11/14] rust: hrtimer: implement `HrTimerPointer` for `Pin<Box<T>>` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 12/14] rust: hrtimer: add `HrTimerMode` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:23     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:17       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 10:19         ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21 11:39           ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-22  9:34             ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 13/14] rust: hrtimer: add clocksource selection through `ClockSource` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 23:27     ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-21  9:29       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 10:22         ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-18 13:27   ` [PATCH v8 14/14] rust: hrtimer: add maintainer entry Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-19 11:02   ` [PATCH v8 00/14] hrtimer Rust API Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-20 21:03     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-02-21  8:40       ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-02-21 11:20         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-02-22 13:04           ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-02-22 13:10             ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-03-05 17:34             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-02-20 22:35   ` Frederic Weisbecker

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