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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>,
	alsa-devel@alsa-project.org,
	sound-open-firmware@alsa-project.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
	Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.com>,
	Cezary Rojewski <cezary.rojewski@intel.com>,
	Liam Girdwood <liam.r.girdwood@linux.intel.com>,
	Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@linux.intel.com>,
	Bard Liao <yung-chuan.liao@linux.intel.com>,
	Ranjani Sridharan <ranjani.sridharan@linux.intel.com>,
	Kai Vehmanen <kai.vehmanen@linux.intel.com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Baluta <daniel.baluta@nxp.com>,
	Matthew Auld <matthew.auld@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 8/9] ASoC: SOF: Intel: Remove deferred probe for SOF
Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2023 12:37:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ila8tgyn.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1bb7858d-fab0-f3c2-b786-a93f3789b400@linux.intel.com>

On Tue, 25 Jul 2023 12:29:07 +0200,
Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
> 
> Hey,
> 
> On 2023-07-24 13:32, Pierre-Louis Bossart wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On 7/19/23 18:41, Maarten Lankhorst wrote:
> >> This was only used to allow modprobing i915, by converting to the
> >> -EPROBE_DEFER mechanism, it can be completely removed, and is in
> >> fact counterproductive since -EPROBE_DEFER otherwise won't be
> >> handled correctly.
> > 
> > I personally remember only that the request_module("i915") was the main
> > motivation for the use of the workqueue, but when it comes to the
> > HDaudio codec management we don't even know what we don't know.
> > 
> > I am a bit worried that the snd-hda-intel driver keeps the workqueue for
> > HDaudio codec initialization, and this patch removes the workqueue
> > completely for SOF. That doesn't seem right. Either both drivers need a
> > workqueue or none need a workqueue.
> > 
> > Maybe what we need is to move the i915/xe initialization out of the
> > workqueue, and see in a second pass if that workqueue can be safely
> > removed from the SOF driver?
> > 
> As I mentioned in some of the other sound driver conversions. I
> believe it's possible to completely kill off most workqueues.
> 
> However, I don´t have the hardware or knowledge to test it. I saw
> that the SOF had the non-workqueue path already, so it felt less risky
> to simply convert it to always use that path.
> 
> avs/skylake drivers should be easy to convert too. This is why I left
> the comment: "Removing the workqueue would simplify init even further,
> but is left as exercise for the reviewer."
> 
> HDA-intel has this retry-probe logic used on AMD's,
> which makes me more hesitant to convert it.

Yes, HDA-Intel requires either a workqueue or async firmware-loader
callback because there is some codec module-autoload mechanism that
may happen during the probe phase.  It's not only on AMD, but it's
required in general for all codecs.


Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-25 10:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-19 16:41 [PATCH v2 0/9] sound: Use -EPROBE_DEFER instead of i915 module loading Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-19 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 1/9] ALSA: hda/intel: Fix error handling in azx_probe() Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-21 11:34   ` Péter Ujfalusi
2023-07-24 10:15     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-07-19 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 2/9] ALSA: hda/i915: Allow override of gpu binding Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-21 12:19   ` Péter Ujfalusi
2023-07-24 10:25     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-07-25  9:54       ` Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-25 11:52         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-07-25 12:19           ` Takashi Iwai
2023-07-19 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 3/9] ALSA: hda/i915: Add an allow_modprobe argument to snd_hdac_i915_init Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-21 11:32   ` Péter Ujfalusi
2023-07-19 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] ALSA: hda/i915: Allow xe as match for i915_component_master_match Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-21 12:20   ` Péter Ujfalusi
2023-07-24 10:28   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-07-25 10:04     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-19 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 5/9] ASoC: Intel: avs: Move snd_hdac_i915_init to before probe_work Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-19 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 6/9] ASoC: Intel: Skylake: " Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-19 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 7/9] ALSA: hda/intel: " Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-24 10:58   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-07-25 10:13     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-19 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 8/9] ASoC: SOF: Intel: Remove deferred probe for SOF Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-21 12:17   ` Péter Ujfalusi
2023-07-24 11:32   ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-07-25 10:29     ` Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-25 10:37       ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2023-07-19 16:41 ` [PATCH v2 9/9] ALSA: hda/i915: Remove extra argument from snd_hdac_i915_init Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-21 10:06 ` [PATCH v2 0/9] sound: Use -EPROBE_DEFER instead of i915 module loading Kai Vehmanen
2023-07-21 12:19 ` Péter Ujfalusi
2023-07-31 15:51 ` Takashi Iwai
2023-07-31 16:37   ` Maarten Lankhorst
2023-07-31 19:32     ` Takashi Iwai
2023-08-01  7:27       ` Maarten Lankhorst
2023-08-01 16:32     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-08-04 10:47       ` [PATCH] ASoC: SOF: Intel: Move binding to display driver outside of deferred probe Maarten Lankhorst
2023-08-04 11:59         ` Mark Brown
2023-08-04 14:31           ` Maarten Lankhorst
2023-08-04 14:34             ` Mark Brown

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