From: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
To: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
Cc: Sergey Senozhatsky <senozhatsky@chromium.org>,
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Subject: Re: locking API: was: [PATCH printk v1 00/18] serial: 8250: implement non-BKL console
Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2023 23:53:16 +0206 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ilekmtuj.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZCMDVKy1Ir0rvi5g@alley>
On 2023-03-28, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com> wrote:
>> If an atomic context loses ownership while doing certain activities,
>> it may need to re-acquire ownership in order to finish or cleanup
>> what it started.
>
> This sounds suspicious. If a console/writer context has lost the lock
> then all shared/locked resources might already be used by the new
> owner.
Correct.
> I would expect that the context could touch only non-shared resources
> after loosing the lock.
Correct.
> If it re-acquires the lock then the shared resource might be in
> another state. So, doing any further changes might be dangerous.
That is the responsibility of the driver to implement it safely if it is
needed.
> I could imagine that incrementing/decrementing some counter might
> make sense but setting some value sounds strange.
The 8250 driver must disable interrupts before writing to the TX
FIFO. After writing it re-enables the interrupts. However, it might be
the case that the interrupts were already disabled, in which case after
writing they are left disabled.
IOW, whatever context disabled the interrupts is the context that is
expected to re-enable them. This simple rule makes it really easy to
handle nested printing because a context is only concerned with
restoring the IER state that it originally saw.
Using counters or passing around interrupt re-enabling responsibility
would be considerably trickier.
>>> And why we need to reacquire it?
>>
>> In this particular case the context has disabled interrupts. No other
>> context will re-enable interrupts because the driver is implemented
>> such that the one who disables is the one who enables. So this
>> context must re-acquire ownership in order to re-enable interrupts.
>
> My understanding is that the driver might lose the lock only
> during hostile takeover. Is it safe to re-enable interrupts
> in this case?
Your understanding is incorrect. If a more important outputting context
should arrive, the non-important outputting context will happily and
kindly handover to the higher priority. From the perspective of the
atomic console driver, it lost ownership.
Simple example: The kthread printer is printing and some WARN_ON() is
triggered on another CPU. The warning will be output at a higher
priority and print from the context/CPU of the WARN_ON(). The kthread
printer will lose its ownership by handing over to the warning CPU.
Note that we are _not_ talking about when the unsafe bit is set. We are
talking about a printer that owns the console, is in a safe section, and
loses ownership. If that context was the one that disabled interrupts,
it needs to re-acquire the console in order to safely re-enable the
interrupts. The context that tookover ownership saw that interrupts are
disabled and does _not_ re-enable them when it is finished printing.
John
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-28 21:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-03-02 19:56 [PATCH printk v1 00/18] threaded/atomic console support John Ogness
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 01/18] kdb: do not assume write() callback available John Ogness
2023-03-07 14:57 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-07 16:34 ` Doug Anderson
2023-03-09 10:52 ` Daniel Thompson
2023-03-09 11:26 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-09 11:30 ` Daniel Thompson
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 02/18] printk: Add NMI check to down_trylock_console_sem() John Ogness
2023-03-07 16:05 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 11:37 ` John Ogness
2023-04-13 13:42 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 03/18] printk: Consolidate console deferred printing John Ogness
2023-03-08 13:15 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 13:05 ` John Ogness
2023-04-13 15:15 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 04/18] printk: Add per-console suspended state John Ogness
2023-03-08 14:40 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 13:22 ` John Ogness
2023-04-14 9:56 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 05/18] printk: Add non-BKL console basic infrastructure John Ogness
2023-03-09 14:08 ` global states: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 13:29 ` John Ogness
2023-03-09 15:32 ` naming: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 13:39 ` John Ogness
2023-03-21 16:04 ` union: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-27 16:28 ` John Ogness
2023-03-28 8:20 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-28 9:42 ` John Ogness
2023-03-28 12:52 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-28 13:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 06/18] printk: nobkl: Add acquire/release logic John Ogness
2023-03-06 9:07 ` Dan Carpenter
2023-03-06 9:39 ` John Ogness
2023-03-13 16:07 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 14:56 ` John Ogness
2023-03-20 16:10 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-17 17:34 ` simplify: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-21 15:36 ` Petr Mladek
2023-04-02 18:39 ` John Ogness
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 07/18] printk: nobkl: Add buffer management John Ogness
2023-03-21 16:38 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-23 13:38 ` John Ogness
2023-03-23 15:25 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 08/18] printk: nobkl: Add sequence handling John Ogness
2023-03-27 15:45 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 09/18] printk: nobkl: Add print state functions John Ogness
2023-03-29 13:58 ` buffer write race: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-29 14:33 ` John Ogness
2023-03-30 11:54 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-29 14:05 ` misc details: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 10/18] printk: nobkl: Add emit function and callback functions for atomic printing John Ogness
2023-03-03 0:19 ` kernel test robot
2023-03-03 10:55 ` John Ogness
2023-03-31 10:29 ` dropped handling: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-31 10:36 ` semantic: " Petr Mladek
[not found] ` <87edp29kvq.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>
[not found] ` <ZCraqrkqFtsfLWuP@alley>
[not found] ` <87ilecsrvl.fsf@jogness.linutronix.de>
2023-04-04 14:09 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 11/18] printk: nobkl: Introduce printer threads John Ogness
2023-03-03 1:23 ` kernel test robot
2023-03-03 10:56 ` John Ogness
2023-04-05 10:48 ` boot console: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-04-06 8:09 ` wakeup synchronization: " Petr Mladek
2023-04-06 9:46 ` port lock: " Petr Mladek
2023-04-20 9:55 ` Petr Mladek
2023-04-20 10:33 ` John Ogness
2023-04-20 13:33 ` Petr Mladek
2023-04-21 16:15 ` Petr Mladek
2023-04-06 13:19 ` misc: " Petr Mladek
2023-04-13 13:28 ` (k)thread: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 12/18] printk: nobkl: Add printer thread wakeups John Ogness
2023-04-12 9:38 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 13/18] printk: nobkl: Add write context storage for atomic writes John Ogness
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 14/18] printk: nobkl: Provide functions for atomic write enforcement John Ogness
2023-04-12 14:53 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 15/18] printk: nobkl: Stop threads on shutdown/reboot John Ogness
2023-04-13 9:03 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 16/18] kernel/panic: Add atomic write enforcement to warn/panic John Ogness
2023-04-13 10:08 ` Petr Mladek
2023-04-13 12:13 ` John Ogness
2023-04-14 10:10 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 17/18] rcu: Add atomic write enforcement for rcu stalls John Ogness
2023-04-13 12:10 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:56 ` [PATCH printk v1 18/18] printk: Perform atomic flush in console_flush_on_panic() John Ogness
2023-04-13 12:20 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-02 19:58 ` [PATCH printk v1 00/18] serial: 8250: implement non-BKL console John Ogness
2023-03-28 13:33 ` locking API: was: " Petr Mladek
2023-03-28 13:57 ` John Ogness
2023-03-28 15:10 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-28 21:47 ` John Ogness [this message]
2023-03-29 8:03 ` Petr Mladek
2023-03-28 13:59 ` [PATCH printk v1 00/18] POC: serial: 8250: implement nbcon console John Ogness
2023-03-09 10:55 ` [PATCH printk v1 00/18] threaded/atomic console support Daniel Thompson
2023-03-09 11:14 ` John Ogness
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