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From: John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>
To: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] printk-rb: add a new printk ringbuffer implementation
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 04:03:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87imsnaky1.fsf@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190629210528.GA3922@andrea> (Andrea Parri's message of "Sat, 29 Jun 2019 23:05:28 +0200")

On 2019-06-29, Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com> wrote:
>> /**
>>  * add_descr_list() - Add a descriptor to the descriptor list.
>>  *
>>  * @e: An entry that has already reserved data.
>>  *
>>  * The provided entry contains a pointer to a descriptor that has already
>>  * been reserved for this entry. However, the reserved descriptor is not
>>  * yet on the list. Add this descriptor as the newest item.
>>  *
>>  * A descriptor is added in two steps. The first step is to make this
>>  * descriptor the newest. The second step is to update @next of the former
>>  * newest descriptor to point to this one (or set @oldest to this one if
>>  * this will be the first descriptor on the list).
>>  */
>> static void add_descr_list(struct prb_reserved_entry *e)
>> {
>> 	struct printk_ringbuffer *rb = e->rb;
>> 	struct prb_list *l = &rb->descr_list;
>> 	struct prb_descr *d = e->descr;
>> 	struct prb_descr *newest_d;
>> 	unsigned long newest_id;
>> 
>> 	WRITE_ONCE(d->next, EOL);
>
> /* C */
>
>
>> 
>> 	do {
>> 		newest_id = READ_ONCE(l->newest);
>
> /* A */
>
>
>> 		newest_d = TO_DESC(rb, newest_id);
>> 
>> 		if (newest_id == EOL) {
>> 			WRITE_ONCE(d->seq, 1);
>> 		} else {
>> 			/*
>> 			 * MB5-read: synchronize setting newest descr
>> 			 *
>> 			 * context-pair: 2 writers adding a descriptor via
>> 			 * add_descr_list().
>> 			 *
>> 			 * @newest will load before @seq due to a data
>> 			 * dependency, therefore, the stores of @seq
>> 			 * and @next from the pairing MB5-write context
>> 			 * will be visible.
>> 			 *
>> 			 * Although @next is not loaded by this context,
>> 			 * this context must overwrite the stored @next
>> 			 * value of the pairing MB5-write context.
>> 			 */
>> 			WRITE_ONCE(d->seq, READ_ONCE(newest_d->seq) + 1);
>
> /* B: this READ_ONCE() */
>
> Hence you're claiming a data dependency from A to B. (FWIW, the LKMM
> would call "A ->dep B" an "address dependency.)
>
> This comment also claims that the "pairing MB5-write" orders "stores
> of @seq and @next" (which are to different memory locations w.r.t. A
> and B): I do not get why this access to @next (C above?, that's also
> "unordered" w.r.t. A) can be relevant; can you elaborate?

I will add some more labels to complete the picture. All these events
are within this function:

D: the WRITE_ONCE() to @seq

E: the STORE of a successful cmpxchg() for @newest (the MB5-write
cmpxchg())

F: the STORE of a new @next (the last smp_store_release() of this
function, note that the _release() is not relevant for this pair)

The significant events for 2 contexts that are accessing the same
addresses of a descriptor are:

P0(struct desc *d0)
{
        // adding a new descriptor d0

        WRITE_ONCE(d0->next, EOL);               // C
        WRITE_ONCE(d0->seq, X);                  // D
        cmpxchg_release(newest, Y, indexof(d0)); // E
}

P1(struct desc *d1)
{
        // adding a new descriptor d1 that comes after d0

        struct desc *d0;
        int r0, r1;

        r0 = READ_ONCE(newest);                 // A
        d0 = &array[r0];
        r1 = READ_ONCE(d0->seq);                // B
        WRITE_ONCE(d0->next, Z);                // F
}

d0 is the same address for P0 and P1. (The values of EOL, X, Y, Z are
unrelated and irrelevant.)

I am claiming that:

- B comes after D
- F comes after C

>> 		}
>> 
>> 		/*
>> 		 * MB5-write: synchronize setting newest descr
>> 		 *
>> 		 * context-pair: 2 writers adding a descriptor via
>> 		 * add_descr_list().
>> 		 *
>> 		 * Ensure that @next and @seq are stored before @d is
>> 		 * visible via @newest. The pairing MB5-read context
>> 		 * must load this @seq value and must overwrite this
>> 		 * @next value.
>> 		 */
>> 	} while (cmpxchg_release(&l->newest, newest_id, e->id) != newest_id);
>> 
>> 	if (unlikely(newest_id == EOL)) {
>> 		/*
>> 		 * MB0-write: synchronize adding first descr
>> 		 *
>> 		 * context-pair: 1 writer adding the first descriptor via
>> 		 * add_descr_list(), 1 reader getting the beginning of
>> 		 * the list via iter_peek_next_id().
>> 		 *
>> 		 * This context recently assigned new values for @id,
>> 		 * @next, @seq. Ensure these are stored before the first
>> 		 * store to @oldest so that the new values are visible
>> 		 * to the reader in the pairing MB0-read context.
>> 		 *
>> 		 * Note: Before this store, the value of @oldest is EOL.
>> 		 */
>
> My gmail-search foo is unable to locate MB0-read: what am I missing?
> Also, can you maybe annotate the memory accesses to @id, @next, @seq
> and @oldest (as I did above)? I find myself guessing their location.

Sorry. The MB0-read is a _new_ comment that would be added to the
smp_rmb() of the reader functions. I didn't repost everything because I
just wanted to get a feel if the comments for _this_ function are
improving. Really all I care about right now is properly documenting
MB5. It is a good example because MB5 is completely within this
function. If I can satisfactorily document MB5, then I can post a new
version with updated comments for everything.

>> 		smp_store_release(&l->oldest, e->id);
>> 	} else {
>> 		/*
>> 		 * MB6-write: synchronize linking new descr
>> 		 *
>> 		 * context-pair-1: 1 writer adding a descriptor via
>> 		 * add_descr_list(), 1 writer removing a descriptor via
>> 		 * remove_oldest_descr().
>> 		 *
>> 		 * If this is a recycled descriptor, this context
>> 		 * recently stored a new @oldest value. Ensure that
>> 		 * @oldest is stored before storing @next so that
>> 		 * if the pairing MB6-read context sees a non-EOL
>> 		 * @next value, it is ensured that it will also see
>> 		 * an updated @oldest value.
>> 		 *
>> 		 * context-pair-2: 1 writer adding a descriptor via
>> 		 * add_descr_list(), 1 reader iterating the list via
>> 		 * prb_iter_next_valid_entry().
>> 		 *
>> 		 * This context recently assigned new values for @id,
>> 		 * @next, @seq, @data, @data_next. Ensure these are
>> 		 * stored before storing @next of the previously
>> 		 * newest descriptor so that the new values are
>> 		 * visible to the iterating reader in the pairing
>> 		 * MB6-read context.
>> 		 *
>> 		 * Note: Before this store, the value of @next of the
>> 		 * previously newest descriptor is EOL.
>> 		 */
>
> Same as above but for MB6-read and the accesses to @id, @next, @seq,
> @data, @data_next.
>
> In conclusion, I have been unable to produce litmus tests by reading
> your comments (meaning I'm lost).

I feel like I'm stating all the information, but nobody understands it.
If you can help me to correctly document MB5, I can submit a new version
with all the memory barriers correctly documented.

John Ogness

  reply	other threads:[~2019-06-30  2:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-06-07 16:23 [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] printk: new ringbuffer implementation John Ogness
2019-06-07 16:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] printk-rb: add a new printk " John Ogness
2019-06-18  4:51   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-06-18 22:12     ` John Ogness
2019-06-25  6:45       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-06-25  7:15         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-06-25  8:44           ` John Ogness
2019-06-25  9:06             ` Petr Mladek
2019-06-25 10:03               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-06-25 12:03                 ` John Ogness
2019-06-26  2:08                   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-06-26  7:16                     ` John Ogness
2019-06-26  7:45                       ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-06-26  7:47                       ` Petr Mladek
2019-06-26  7:59                         ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-06-25  9:09             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-06-18 11:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-18 22:18     ` John Ogness
2019-06-18 11:22   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-18 22:30     ` John Ogness
2019-06-19 10:46       ` Andrea Parri
2019-06-20 22:50         ` John Ogness
2019-06-21 12:16           ` Andrea Parri
2019-06-19 11:08       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-18 11:47   ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-20 22:23     ` John Ogness
2019-06-26 22:40       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26 22:53         ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-28  9:50         ` John Ogness
2019-06-28 15:44           ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-28 16:07             ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-01 10:39             ` John Ogness
2019-07-01 14:10               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-07-01 14:11               ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-29 21:05           ` Andrea Parri
2019-06-30  2:03             ` John Ogness [this message]
2019-06-30 14:08               ` Andrea Parri
2019-07-02 14:13                 ` John Ogness
2019-06-26 22:47       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-21 14:05   ` Petr Mladek
2019-06-24  8:33     ` John Ogness
2019-06-24 14:09       ` Petr Mladek
2019-06-25 13:29         ` John Ogness
2019-06-26  8:29           ` Petr Mladek
2019-06-26  9:09             ` John Ogness
2019-06-26 21:16       ` Peter Zijlstra
2019-06-26 21:43         ` John Ogness
2019-06-27  8:28           ` Petr Mladek
2019-07-04 10:33     ` [PATCH POC] printk_ringbuffer: Alternative implementation of lockless printk ringbuffer Petr Mladek
2019-07-04 14:59       ` John Ogness
2019-07-08 15:23         ` Petr Mladek
2019-07-09  1:34           ` John Ogness
2019-07-09  9:06             ` Petr Mladek
2019-07-09 10:21               ` John Ogness
2019-07-09 11:58                 ` Petr Mladek
2019-08-14  3:46                   ` John Ogness
2019-06-24 13:55   ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/2] printk-rb: add a new printk ringbuffer implementation John Ogness
2019-06-25  8:55   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2019-06-25  9:19     ` John Ogness
2019-06-07 16:23 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/2] printk-rb: add test module John Ogness
2019-06-17 21:09 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/2] printk: new ringbuffer implementation Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-18  7:15   ` Petr Mladek

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