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From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 00/15] barrier: Add smp_cond_load_{relaxed,acquire}_timeout()
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2026 16:34:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87jyqe7koo.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bjc78lld.fsf@oracle.com>


Hi Andrew

This series cuts across a variety of subsystems and at this point most
patches have been reviewed or acked.

The only ones not are the newly added interface tif_need_resched_relaxed_wait()
in patch-11 "sched: add need-resched timed wait interface" which is a simple
wrapper over the added barrier or, patches 14,15 "barrier: add tests for
smp_cond_load_*_timeout()" and, "barrier: add clock tests for
smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout()" which add kunit tests.

Would it be possible for you take this in mm-nonmm?

The only things missing are a few issues flagged by sashiko/bpf which
as I mention below aren't worth addressing (or are newly introduced
typos).
Happy to respin to fix those if you think that's better.

Once this is in I would like to send some patches to idle where the
new interface could be used to poll in idle on arm64.

Thanks
Ankur

Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com> writes:

> Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com> writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Changes in this version:
>>
>>     - rename kconfig entry for the barrier kunit test to follow
>>       the kunit style guide
>>       (s/BARRIER_TIMEOUT_TEST/BARRIER_TIMEOUT_KUNIT_TEST)
>>
>>     - make the kunit test be visible only if CONFIG_KUNIT_ALL_TESTS
>>       is not enabled.
>>
>>     Both comments from Julian Braha.
>>
>> (There were also comments from the sashiko and bpf-bot which I've
>> commented on in prior versions of this series and which don't
>> make sense to address.)
>
> Sashiko/bpf-bot review comments so far are a repeat of earlier
> ones. There are a few new typos that got flagged. Will address
> those if I end up sending another version out because of more
> substantive comments.
>
>> The core kernel often uses smp_cond_load_{relaxed,acquire}() to spin
>> on condition variables with architectural primitives used to avoid
>> hammering the relevant cachelines.
>>
>> (This primitive can vary greatly across architectures: on x86 it's a
>> cpu_relax() to slow down the pipeline. On arm64, this is a __cmpwait()
>> which waits for a cacheline to change state in a time limited fashion.)
>>
>> Regardless of architectural details, typical smp_cond_load*() usage
>> does not allow for termination until the condition change occurs.
>>
>> Beyond the core kernel, there are cases where it is useful to additionally
>> terminate on a timeout. Two cases:
>>
>>   - cpuidle poll_idle(): wait for need-resched until the cpuidle polling
>>     duration expires.
>>
>>   - rqspinlock: nested qspinlock acquisition that terminates on timeout
>>     or deadlock.
>>
>> Accordingly add two interfaces (with their generic and arm64 specific
>> implementations):
>>
>>    smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout(ptr, cond_expr, time_expr, timeout)
>>    smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout(ptr, cond_expr, time_expr, timeout)
>>
>> Also add tif_need_resched_relaxed_wait() which wraps the polling
>> pattern and its scheduler specific details in poll_idle().
>> In addition add atomic_cond_read_*_timeout(),
>> atomic64_cond_read_*_timeout(), and atomic_long wrappers.
>>
>> Structurally, both the smp_cond_load_*_timeout() interfaces are similar
>> to smp_cond_load*(), with the addition of a rate-limited time-check.
>>
>> Usage
>> ==
>>
>> These interfaces drop straight-forwardly into the rqspinlock logic
>> since qspinlock already uses smp_cond_load*(), and the time-check
>> extension can now be used for timeout and deadlock handling.
>>
>> Using tif_need_resched_relaxed_wait() in poll_idle() removes any
>> architectural details allowing arm64 to straight-forwardly support
>> that path.
>> (However, for efficiency reasons cpuidle/poll_state.c continues to
>> depend on ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX since that is defined on architectures
>> with an optimized architectural primitive.)
>>
>>
>> Performance
>> ==
>>
>> Apart from simplifications due to this change, supporting polling in
>> cpuidle on arm64 helps improve wakeup latency (needs a few cpuidle/acpi
>> patches):
>>
>>
>>   # perf stat -r 5 --cpu 4,5 -e task-clock,cycles,instructions,sched:sched_wake_idle_without_ipi \
>>   perf bench sched pipe -l 1000000 -c 4
>>
>>   # No haltpoll (and, no TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG):
>>
>>   Performance counter stats for 'CPU(s) 4,5' (5 runs):
>>
>>          25,229.57 msec task-clock                       #    2.000 CPUs utilized               ( +-  7.75% )
>>     45,821,250,284      cycles                           #    1.816 GHz                         ( +- 10.07% )
>>     26,557,496,665      instructions                     #    0.58  insn per cycle              ( +-  0.21% )
>>                  0      sched:sched_wake_idle_without_ipi #    0.000 /sec
>>
>>        12.615 +- 0.977 seconds time elapsed  ( +-  7.75% )
>>
>>
>>   # Haltpoll:
>>
>>   Performance counter stats for 'CPU(s) 4,5' (5 runs):
>>
>>          15,131.58 msec task-clock                       #    2.000 CPUs utilized               ( +- 10.00% )
>>     34,158,188,839      cycles                           #    2.257 GHz                         ( +-  6.91% )
>>     20,824,950,916      instructions                     #    0.61  insn per cycle              ( +-  0.09% )
>>          1,983,822      sched:sched_wake_idle_without_ipi #  131.105 K/sec                       ( +-  0.78% )
>>
>>         7.566 +- 0.756 seconds time elapsed  ( +- 10.00% )
>>
>>   We get improved latency because we don't switch in and out of a
>>   deeper sleep state or from the hypervisor. This also causes us to
>>   execute ~20% fewer instructions.
>>
>>
>> Haris Okanovic also saw improvement in real workloads due to the
>> cpuidle changes: "observed 4-6% improvements in memcahed, cassandra,
>> mysql, and postgresql under certain loads. Other applications likely
>> benefit too." [12]
>>
>>
>> Changelog:
>>
>>   v13 [15] (as listed above):
>>     - rename kconfig entry for the barrier kunit test to follow
>>       the kunit style guide
>>       (s/BARRIER_TIMEOUT_TEST/BARRIER_TIMEOUT_KUNIT_TEST)
>>
>>     - make the kunit test be visible only if CONFIG_KUNIT_ALL_TESTS
>>       is not enabled.
>>
>>     Both comments from Julian Braha.
>>
>>   v12 [14]:
>>     - smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout() now only has acquire semantics in
>>       the success (non-timeout) case.
>>
>>     - arm64 now does not define ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX as without also
>>       defining TIF_POLLING_NRFLAG, in some cases we end up with a
>>       degenerate version of poll_idle().
>>
>>     - kunit: removed the test case for timeout=-1 (not supported)
>>       Also add test cases for timeout=0, timeout=1.
>>
>>     (All of these address review comments from sashiko/bpf-bot.)
>>
>>   v11 [13]:
>>     - addressed some review comments from sashiko (see commit notes)
>>       - The one notable change is to the implementation of
>>         smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout() where there was a missed
>>         control dependency in the timeout case.
>>       All the others are minor.
>>     - fixed a low probability race in the kunit test added in v11.
>>     - added a bunch of kunit tests validating the implementation's
>>       use of the clock.
>>
>>   v10 [10]:
>>    - add a comment mentioning that smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() might
>>      be using architectural primitives that don't support MMIO.
>>      (David Laight, Catalin Marinas)
>>    - added a kunit test for smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() (Andrew
>>      Morton.)
>>
>>   v9 [9]:
>>    - s/@cond/@cond_expr/ (Randy Dunlap)
>>    - Clarify that SMP_TIMEOUT_POLL_COUNT is only around memory
>>      addresses. (David Laight)
>>    - Add the missing config ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX in arch/arm64/Kconfig.
>>      (Catalin Marinas).
>>    - Switch to arch_counter_get_cntvct_stable() (via __delay_cycles())
>>      in the cmpwait path instead of using arch_timer_read_counter().
>>      (Catalin Marinas)
>>
>>   v8 [0]:
>>    - Defer evaluation of @time_expr_ns to when we hit the slowpath.
>>       (comment from Alexei Starovoitov).
>>
>>    - Mention that cpu_poll_relax() is better than raw CPU polling
>>      only where ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX is defined.
>>      - also define ARCH_HAS_CPU_RELAX for arm64.
>>       (Came out of a discussion with Will Deacon.)
>>
>>    - Split out WFET and WFE handling. I was doing both of these
>>      in a common handler.
>>      (From Will Deacon and in an earlier revision by Catalin Marinas.)
>>
>>    - Add mentions of atomic_cond_read_{relaxed,acquire}(),
>>      atomic_cond_read_{relaxed,acquire}_timeout() in
>>      Documentation/atomic_t.txt.
>>
>>    - Use the BIT() macro to do the checking in tif_bitset_relaxed_wait().
>>
>>    - Cleanup unnecessary assignments, casts etc in poll_idle().
>>      (From Rafael Wysocki.)
>>
>>    - Fixup warnings from kernel build robot
>>
>>
>>   v7 [1]:
>>    - change the interface to separately provide the timeout. This is
>>      useful for supporting WFET and similar primitives which can do
>>      timed waiting (suggested by Arnd Bergmann).
>>
>>    - Adapting rqspinlock code to this changed interface also
>>      necessitated allowing time_expr to fail.
>>    - rqspinlock changes to adapt to the new smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout().
>>
>>    - add WFET support (suggested by Arnd Bergmann).
>>    - add support for atomic-long wrappers.
>>    - add a new scheduler interface tif_need_resched_relaxed_wait() which
>>      encapsulates the polling logic used by poll_idle().
>>      - interface suggested by (Rafael J. Wysocki).
>>
>>
>>   v6 [2]:
>>    - fixup missing timeout parameters in atomic64_cond_read_*_timeout()
>>    - remove a race between setting of TIF_NEED_RESCHED and the call to
>>      smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout(). This would mean that dev->poll_time_limit
>>      would be set even if we hadn't spent any time waiting.
>>      (The original check compared against local_clock(), which would have been
>>      fine, but I was instead using a cheaper check against _TIF_NEED_RESCHED.)
>>    (Both from meta-CI bot)
>>
>>
>>   v5 [3]:
>>    - use cpu_poll_relax() instead of cpu_relax().
>>    - instead of defining an arm64 specific
>>      smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout(), just define the appropriate
>>      cpu_poll_relax().
>>    - re-read the target pointer when we exit due to the time-check.
>>    - s/SMP_TIMEOUT_SPIN_COUNT/SMP_TIMEOUT_POLL_COUNT/
>>    (Suggested by Will Deacon)
>>
>>    - add atomic_cond_read_*_timeout() and atomic64_cond_read_*_timeout()
>>      interfaces.
>>    - rqspinlock: use atomic_cond_read_acquire_timeout().
>>    - cpuidle: use smp_cond_load_relaxed_tiemout() for polling.
>>    (Suggested by Catalin Marinas)
>>
>>    - rqspinlock: define SMP_TIMEOUT_POLL_COUNT to be 16k for non arm64
>>
>>
>>   v4 [4]:
>>     - naming change 's/timewait/timeout/'
>>     - resilient spinlocks: get rid of res_smp_cond_load_acquire_waiting()
>>       and fixup use of RES_CHECK_TIMEOUT().
>>     (Both suggested by Catalin Marinas)
>>
>>   v3 [5]:
>>     - further interface simplifications (suggested by Catalin Marinas)
>>
>>   v2 [6]:
>>     - simplified the interface (suggested by Catalin Marinas)
>>        - get rid of wait_policy, and a multitude of constants
>>        - adds a slack parameter
>>       This helped remove a fair amount of duplicated code duplication and in
>>       hindsight unnecessary constants.
>>
>>   v1 [7]:
>>      - add wait_policy (coarse and fine)
>>      - derive spin-count etc at runtime instead of using arbitrary
>>        constants.
>>
>> Haris Okanovic tested v4 of this series with poll_idle()/haltpoll patches. [8]
>>
>> Comments appreciated!
>>
>> Thanks
>> Ankur
>>
>>  [0] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20251215044919.460086-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
>>  [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20251028053136.692462-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
>>  [2] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250911034655.3916002-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
>>  [3] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250911034655.3916002-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
>>  [4] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250829080735.3598416-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
>>  [5] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250627044805.945491-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
>>  [6] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250502085223.1316925-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
>>  [7] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20250203214911.898276-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
>>  [8] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/2cecbf7fb23ee83a4ce027e1be3f46f97efd585c.camel@amazon.com/
>>  [9] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260209023153.2661784-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
>>  [10] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260316013651.3225328-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
>>  [11] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20230809134837.GM212435@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net/
>>  [12] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/c6f3c8d3f1f2e89a9dc7ae22482973b5a51b08cb.camel@amazon.com/
>>  [13] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260408122538.3610871-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/#r
>>  [14] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260608080440.127491-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
>>  [15] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260702013334.140905-1-ankur.a.arora@oracle.com/
>>
>> Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
>> Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
>> Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
>> Cc: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>
>> Cc: Kumar Kartikeya Dwivedi <memxor@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
>> Cc: bpf@vger.kernel.org
>> Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org
>> Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
>> Cc: linux-pm@vger.kernel.org
>>
>> Ankur Arora (15):
>>   asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout()
>>   arm64: barrier: Support smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout()
>>   arm64/delay: move some constants out to a separate header
>>   arm64: support WFET in smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout()
>>   arm64: rqspinlock: Remove private copy of
>>     smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait()
>>   asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout()
>>   atomic: Add atomic_cond_read_*_timeout()
>>   locking/atomic: scripts: build atomic_long_cond_read_*_timeout()
>>   bpf/rqspinlock: switch check_timeout() to a clock interface
>>   bpf/rqspinlock: Use smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout()
>>   sched: add need-resched timed wait interface
>>   cpuidle/poll_state: Wait for need-resched via
>>     tif_need_resched_relaxed_wait()
>>   arm64/delay: enable testing smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout()
>>   barrier: add tests for smp_cond_load_*_timeout()
>>   barrier: add clock tests for smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout()
>>
>>  Documentation/atomic_t.txt           |  14 +-
>>  arch/arm64/include/asm/barrier.h     |  23 ++++
>>  arch/arm64/include/asm/cmpxchg.h     |  62 +++++++--
>>  arch/arm64/include/asm/delay-const.h |  28 ++++
>>  arch/arm64/include/asm/rqspinlock.h  |  85 ------------
>>  arch/arm64/lib/delay.c               |  17 +--
>>  drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c |   2 +
>>  drivers/cpuidle/poll_state.c         |  21 +--
>>  drivers/soc/qcom/rpmh-rsc.c          |   8 +-
>>  include/asm-generic/barrier.h        | 119 +++++++++++++++++
>>  include/linux/atomic.h               |  10 ++
>>  include/linux/atomic/atomic-long.h   |  18 ++-
>>  include/linux/sched/idle.h           |  29 +++++
>>  kernel/bpf/rqspinlock.c              |  77 +++++++----
>>  lib/Kconfig.debug                    |  10 ++
>>  lib/tests/Makefile                   |   1 +
>>  lib/tests/barrier-timeout-test.c     | 186 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  scripts/atomic/gen-atomic-long.sh    |  16 ++-
>>  18 files changed, 548 insertions(+), 178 deletions(-)
>>  create mode 100644 arch/arm64/include/asm/delay-const.h
>>  create mode 100644 lib/tests/barrier-timeout-test.c


--
ankur

      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-28 23:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-14  7:30 [PATCH v14 00/15] barrier: Add smp_cond_load_{relaxed,acquire}_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 01/15] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  8:11   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 02/15] arm64: barrier: Support smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 03/15] arm64/delay: move some constants out to a separate header Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 04/15] arm64: support WFET in smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 05/15] arm64: rqspinlock: Remove private copy of smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 06/15] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 07/15] atomic: Add atomic_cond_read_*_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 08/15] locking/atomic: scripts: build atomic_long_cond_read_*_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 09/15] bpf/rqspinlock: switch check_timeout() to a clock interface Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 10/15] bpf/rqspinlock: Use smp_cond_load_acquire_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  8:11   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 11/15] sched: add need-resched timed wait interface Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 12/15] cpuidle/poll_state: Wait for need-resched via tif_need_resched_relaxed_wait() Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  8:11   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 13/15] arm64/delay: enable testing smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-07-28 11:36   ` Will Deacon
2026-07-28 23:06     ` Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 14/15] barrier: add tests for smp_cond_load_*_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-07-14  8:11   ` bot+bpf-ci
2026-07-14  7:30 ` [PATCH v14 15/15] barrier: add clock tests for smp_cond_load_relaxed_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-07-16  7:01 ` [PATCH v14 00/15] barrier: Add smp_cond_load_{relaxed,acquire}_timeout() Ankur Arora
2026-07-28 23:34   ` Ankur Arora [this message]

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