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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: "Yu\, Fenghua" <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, "Luck\,
	Tony" <tony.luck@intel.com>, Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	"Li\, Xiaoyao" <xiaoyao.li@intel.com>, "Shankar\,
	Ravi V" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>
Cc: linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, x86 <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: RE: [PATCH v4 1/4] x86/cpufeatures: Enumerate #DB for bus lock detection
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 00:23:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k0rydkw6.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <adf4082ffef7410c961cfe76acc93606@intel.com>

Fenghua,

On Wed, Jan 27 2021 at 22:39, Fenghua Yu wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 27, 2021 2:16 PM, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 24 2020 at 20:52, Fenghua Yu wrote:
>> 
>> > A bus lock is acquired though either split locked access to writeback
>> > (WB) memory or any locked access to non-WB memory. This is typically
>> > >1000 cycles slower than an atomic operation within a cache line. It
>> > also disrupts performance on other cores.
>> >
>> > Some CPUs have ability to notify the kernel by an #DB trap after a
>> > user instruction acquires a bus lock and is executed. This allows the
>> > kernel to enforce user application throttling or mitigations.
>> 
>> That's nice, but how does that interact with a data breakpoint on the same
>> location?
>
> If both data breakpoint and bus lock happen on the same location, the bus lock
> is handled first and then the data breakpoint is handled in the same exception:
>
> 1. If warn on bus lock, a rate limited warning is printed for the bus lock and then
>     a SIGTRAP is sent to the user process.
> 2. If fatal on bus lock, a SIGBUS is sent to the user process for the bus lock and a
>     SIGTRAP is also sent to the user process. I think the SIGBUS will be delivered first
>     to the process and then SIGTRAP will be delivered to the process.
> 3. If ratelimit on bus lock, first the tasks in the user sleep for specified time, then
>     SIGTRAP is sent to the user process.
>
> Is the interaction OK?

The ordering is a software choice and fine with me as long as the
hardware actually delivers both.

All of this information needs to be in the changelog of the relevant
patches.

Thanks,

        tglx


  reply	other threads:[~2021-01-27 23:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-24 20:52 [PATCH v4 0/4] x86/bus_lock: Enable bus lock detection Fenghua Yu
2020-11-24 20:52 ` [PATCH v4 1/4] x86/cpufeatures: Enumerate #DB for " Fenghua Yu
2021-01-27 21:13   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-01-27 22:39     ` Yu, Fenghua
2021-01-27 23:23       ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2020-11-24 20:52 ` [PATCH v4 2/4] x86/bus_lock: Handle warn and fatal in #DB for bus lock Fenghua Yu
2021-01-27 21:16   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-24 20:52 ` [PATCH v4 3/4] x86/bus_lock: Set rate limit " Fenghua Yu
2021-01-27 21:57   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-11-24 20:52 ` [PATCH v4 4/4] Documentation/admin-guide: Change doc for split_lock_detect parameter Fenghua Yu
2021-01-27 22:09   ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-12-02 20:36 ` [PATCH v4 0/4] x86/bus_lock: Enable bus lock detection Yu, Fenghua
2021-01-04 19:42 ` Fenghua Yu
2021-01-25 19:27   ` Fenghua Yu

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