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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Sean Christopherson <sean.j.christopherson@intel.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>, Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [patch V4 part 2 10/18] x86/entry/64: Check IF in __preempt_enable_notrace() thunk
Date: Sat, 09 May 2020 12:25:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k11l4d7l.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrVpSj9fVyUHp-Q_tT-xLgTfYR5JFv52AsOuGJsDYeN3-Q@mail.gmail.com>

Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org> writes:
> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 7:14 AM Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
>>
>> The preempt_enable_notrace() ASM thunk is called from tracing, entry code
>> RCU and other places which are already in or going to be in the noinstr
>> section which protects sensitve code from being instrumented.
>
> This text and $SUBJECT agree that you're talking about
> preempt_enable_notrace(), but:
>
>> +       THUNK preempt_schedule_notrace_thunk, preempt_schedule_notrace, check_if=1
>
> You actually seem to be changing preempt_schedule_notrace().

Duh, yes.

> The actual code in question has this comment:
>
> /**
>  * preempt_schedule_notrace - preempt_schedule called by tracing
>  *
>  * The tracing infrastructure uses preempt_enable_notrace to prevent
>  * recursion and tracing preempt enabling caused by the tracing
>  * infrastructure itself. But as tracing can happen in areas coming
>  * from userspace or just about to enter userspace, a preempt enable
>  * can occur before user_exit() is called. This will cause the scheduler
>  * to be called when the system is still in usermode.
>  *
>  * To prevent this, the preempt_enable_notrace will use this function
>  * instead of preempt_schedule() to exit user context if needed before
>  * calling the scheduler.
>  */
>
> Which is no longer really applicable to x86 -- in the state that this
> comment nonsensically refers to as "userspace", x86 *always* has IRQs
> off, which means that preempt_enable() will not schedule.
>
> So I'm guessing that the issue you're solving is that we have
> redundant preempt disable/enable pairs somewhere in the bowels of
> tracing code that is called with IRQs off, and objtool is now
> complaining.  Could the actual code in question be fixed to assert
> that IRQs are off instead of disabling preemption?  If not, can you
> fix the $SUBJECT and changelog and perhaps add a comment to the code
> as to *why* you're checking IF?  Otherwise some intrepid programmer is
> going to notice it down the road, wonder if it's optimizing anything
> useful at all, and get rid of it.

Let me stare into that again.

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-09 10:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-05 13:41 [patch V4 part 2 00/18] x86/entry: Entry/exception code rework, syscall and KVM changes Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 01/18] x86/entry/64: Move non entry code into .text section Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06 15:51   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-08  1:31   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-05-08 23:53   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-10 13:39     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:58   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 02/18] x86/entry/32: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-07 13:15   ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-07 14:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:58   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 03/18] x86/entry: Mark enter_from_user_mode() noinstr Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-08  8:21   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-05-19 19:58   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 04/18] x86/entry/common: Protect against instrumentation Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-07 13:39   ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-07 14:13     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:58   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 05/18] x86/entry: Move irq tracing on syscall entry to C-code Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-07 13:55   ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-07 14:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-07 15:03       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-07 17:06         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:58   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 06/18] x86/entry: Move irq flags tracing to prepare_exit_to_usermode() Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-08 23:57   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-09 10:16     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:58   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 07/18] context_tracking: Ensure that the critical path cannot be instrumented Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-08  8:23   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2020-05-19 19:58   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 08/18] lib/smp_processor_id: Move it into noinstr section Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:58   ` [tip: x86/entry] x86/speculation/mds: Mark mds_user_clear_cpu_buffers() __always_inline tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:58   ` [tip: x86/entry] lib/smp_processor_id: Move it into noinstr section tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 09/18] x86/speculation/mds: Mark mds_user_clear_cpu_buffers() __always_inline Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 10/18] x86/entry/64: Check IF in __preempt_enable_notrace() thunk Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-07 14:15   ` Alexandre Chartre
2020-05-09  0:10   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-09 10:25     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2020-05-10 18:47       ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-11 18:27         ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-12  1:48     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-05-12  1:51   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-05-12  8:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 11/18] x86/entry/64: Mark ___preempt_schedule_notrace() thunk noinstr Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 12/18] x86,objtool: Make entry_64_compat.S objtool clean Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-09  0:11   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-09 10:06     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:58   ` [tip: x86/entry] x86/entry: " tip-bot2 for Peter Zijlstra
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 13/18] x86/kvm: Move context tracking where it belongs Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06  7:42   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-09  0:14   ` Andy Lutomirski
2020-05-09 10:12     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 14/18] x86/kvm/vmx: Add hardirq tracing to guest enter/exit Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06  7:55   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 15/18] x86/kvm/svm: Handle hardirqs proper on " Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06  8:15   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-06  8:48     ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06  9:21       ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-07 14:44         ` [patch V5 " Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-08 13:45           ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-08 14:01             ` Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 16/18] context_tracking: Make guest_enter/exit() .noinstr ready Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-19 19:58   ` [tip: x86/entry] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 17/18] x86/kvm/vmx: Move guest enter/exit into .noinstr.text Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06  8:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-05 13:41 ` [patch V4 part 2 18/18] x86/kvm/svm: " Thomas Gleixner
2020-05-06  8:17   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-05-07 14:47   ` Alexandre Chartre

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