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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Prarit Bhargava <prarit@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Patrick Geary <patrickg@supermicro.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+samsung@kernel.org>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Pawan Gupta <pawan.kumar.gupta@linux.intel.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>,
	Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>,
	Daniel Drake <drake@endlessm.com>,
	Michael Zhivich <mzhivich@akamai.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/tsc: Add kernel options to disable CPUID and MSR calibrations
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 00:27:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k149nd4p.fsf@nanos.tec.linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200226165407.GB18400@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:43:08AM -0500, Prarit Bhargava wrote:
>> diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>> index dbc22d684627..0316aadfff08 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
>> @@ -4942,7 +4942,7 @@
>>  			See Documentation/admin-guide/mm/transhuge.rst
>>  			for more details.
>>  
>> -	tsc=		Disable clocksource stability checks for TSC.
>> +	tsc=option[,option...]	Various TSC options.
>>  			Format: <string>
>>  			[x86] reliable: mark tsc clocksource as reliable, this
>>  			disables clocksource verification at runtime, as well
>> @@ -4960,6 +4960,12 @@
>>  			in situations with strict latency requirements (where
>>  			interruptions from clocksource watchdog are not
>>  			acceptable).
>> +			[x86] no_cpuid_calibration: Disable the CPUID TSC
>> +			calibration.  Used in situations where the CPUID
>> +			TSC khz does not match the actual CPU TSC khz
>> +			[x86] no_msr_calibration: Disable the MSR TSC
>> +			calibration.  Used in situations where the MSR
>> +			TSC khz does not match the actual CPU TSC khz.
>
> Do we want to mention that these situations are mostly broken firmware?
> Also do mention that if you disable these you might not boot due to not
> having a PIT/HPET at all?

Right. Same discussion as before.

Also why do we want no_cpuid_calibration and no_msr_calibration? How
should Joe User figure out which one to use? This does not make
sense. The point is that the BIOS/Firmware supplied value in system
registers is bogus. So something like "skip_firmware_calibration" might
be better suitable.

Aside of that this really wants to be combined with the ability to
supply the actual frequency on the command line as I suggested in the
other thread to cope with machines which do not expose PIT/HPET or have
broken variants of them.

Thanks,

        tglx



  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-26 23:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-26 16:43 [PATCH] x86/tsc: Add kernel options to disable CPUID and MSR calibrations Prarit Bhargava
2020-02-26 16:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-02-26 23:27   ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2020-02-27 12:58     ` Prarit Bhargava

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