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From: Miquel Raynal <miquel.raynal@bootlin.com>
To: Santhosh Kumar K <s-k6@ti.com>
Cc: <broonie@kernel.org>,  <robh@kernel.org>,  <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	<conor+dt@kernel.org>,  <richard@nod.at>,  <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	<tudor.ambarus@linaro.org>,  <pratyush@kernel.org>,
	 <mwalle@kernel.org>, <linux-spi@vger.kernel.org>,
	 <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	 <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>, <praneeth@ti.com>,
	 <u-kumar1@ti.com>,  <p-mantena@ti.com>, <a-dutta@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 01/12] spi: dt-bindings: add spi-has-dqs property
Date: Thu, 05 Feb 2026 19:06:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ldh7f4k9.fsf@bootlin.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ba78303e-36aa-4f40-9416-c22ff12b7458@ti.com> (Santhosh Kumar K.'s message of "Thu, 5 Feb 2026 23:16:47 +0530")

Hi Santhosh,

>> This information is currently lacking indeed, mostly because nobody
>> ever
>> cared about it. The DT property is IMO not the correct way to give this
>> information for two reasons:
>> - this is a capability of the chip, we discover the chip dynamically in
>>    both cases (NAND and NOR) and attach many capabilities to the chips
>>    already, so I believe this information should be provided through a
>>    flag.
>> - the fact that the DQS signal might be supported does not indicate it
>>    is actually driven. Winbond chips, for instance, can either enable it
>>    or not depending on their configuration (probably through their VCR
>>    register, I need to check again).
>
> I agree. The flash device's capability to provide DQS - whether in SDR,
> DDR or both modes - can be represented as a flag in the flash
> description. We can list out the possible combinations and use them to
> clearly describe the flash's supported capabilities.
>
> However, whether the DQS signal is actually connected to the controller
> is a non-discoverable hardware detail and should be described only via
> Device Tree. The DT property is not meant to describe the flash's
> capabilities, but to indicate whether DQS is physically connected to the
> controller.
>
>> The question I have is: shall we enable the DQS pin automatically if
>> it
>> is available? Not all controllers support it I suppose, and wiring the
>> line might as well not be done (or incorrectly). For these cases we may
>> need DT properties in the future. But for the DQS presence indication, I
>> bet it is not useful, and should be handled at the core level (not
>> parsed by the driver like you do) because it may have an impact on the
>> chip internal configuration.
>
> We can handle this in either way: keep DQS disabled by default and
> enable it using a "has-dqs" property, or enable it by default and
> disable it explicitly using a "no-dqs" property.

I know we can be surprised by our hardware colleagues :-), but I would
consider "not wiring the DQS signal of a (DQS capable) octal DTR SPI
memory" a bug? Hence I would opt for handling the broken case, when/if
that need arises.

Thanks,
Miquèl

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-05 18:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-13 14:16 [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning support Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/12] spi: dt-bindings: add spi-has-dqs property Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-04 10:46   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 17:46     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 18:06       ` Miquel Raynal [this message]
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/12] spi: spi-mem: add controller tuning support Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/12] mtd: spinand: perform controller tuning during probe Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:35   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-06 19:23     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/12] mtd: spi-nor: extract read operation setup into helper Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/12] mtd: spi-nor: perform controller tuning during probe Santhosh Kumar K
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: move cqspi_readdata_capture earlier Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:35   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: add DQS support to read data capture Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:35   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: read 'has-dqs' DT property Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:35   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-19 12:14     ` Michael Walle
2026-02-20  8:21       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning infrastructure Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:39   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-06 19:25     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-13  8:18       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-18 18:07         ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-19 10:30           ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-09  9:48   ` Michael Walle
2026-02-12 10:50     ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-12 11:14       ` Michael Walle
2026-02-12 12:55         ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-18 18:07           ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-19  8:33             ` Michael Walle
2026-02-19 10:34             ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: implement PHY tuning algorithm Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:42   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: restrict PHY frequency to tuned operations Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:47   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-06 19:27     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-13  8:21       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-03-17 15:17         ` Miquel Raynal
2026-01-13 14:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: enable PHY for direct reads and writes Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-05 17:51   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-04 10:29 ` [RFC PATCH v2 00/12] spi: cadence-quadspi: add PHY tuning support Miquel Raynal
2026-02-05 15:48   ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-06 19:28     ` Santhosh Kumar K
2026-02-13  9:01       ` Miquel Raynal
2026-02-18 18:08         ` Santhosh Kumar K

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