From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: x86@kernel.org, Tom Lendacky <thomas.lendacky@amd.com>,
Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
Arjan van de Ven <arjan@linux.intel.com>,
Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>, Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
Dimitri Sivanich <dimitri.sivanich@hpe.com>,
Michael Kelley <mikelley@microsoft.com>,
Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>, Pu Wen <puwen@hygon.cn>,
Qiuxu Zhuo <qiuxu.zhuo@intel.com>,
Sohil Mehta <sohil.mehta@intel.com>,
Gautham Shenoy <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>
Subject: Re: [patch V4 24/41] x86/cpu: Provide cpu_init/parse_topology()
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2023 13:46:46 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87led71wwp.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <011011ee-4f83-3545-4ca2-55bc0bef284a@amd.com>
Prateek!
On Thu, Sep 14 2023 at 14:50, K. Prateek Nayak wrote:
> On 8/28/2023 7:58 PM, K Prateek Nayak wrote:
> o Logical Processor : A processor core provides one or more logical
> processors sharing execution resources. The
> LOGICAL_PROCESSOR_ID sub-field distinguishes logical
> processors in a core. The width of this bit field is
> non-zero if a processor core provides more than one logical
> processors.
> """
>
> So some questions to Intel folks to determine whether mapping AMD's
> Complex to Tile makes sense or not:
>
> - What are the "certain resources" a group of module / tile share?
>
> - Module and Tile both use the phrase "set of cores" in their
> description. Does this mean their existence is mutually exclusive?
That's definitely a good question.
> AMD's Complex (CCX) marks the L3 cache boundary. If either of the
> "certain resources" refer to L3 cache, then Complex can be safely mapped
> to the respective level without any fear of misinterpretation of the
> characteristics.
I don't think it's a good idea to try deducing cache hierarchy from the
basic topology. The boundaries have changed over time and AMD has made
it impossible on older CPUs to use the CPU topology for that.
I tried to do that and gave up because I realized that we need both and
then do the proper association by combining the information.
> Also, I do not see a "DieGrp" domain in the "x86_topology_domains". Is
> this because of the lack of "software visible" aspect of it despite its
> possible existence?
No. It's subsumed by the package domain. Let me look at the mechanics
some more to make this more obvious.
Thanks,
tglx
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Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-08-14 8:53 [patch V4 00/41] x86/cpu: Rework the topology evaluation Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 01/41] x86/cpu/hygon: Fix the CPU topology evaluation for real Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 02/41] cpu/SMT: Make SMT control more robust against enumeration failures Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-15 21:15 ` Dave Hansen
2023-10-10 12:18 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 03/41] x86/apic: Fake primary thread mask for XEN/PV Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 04/41] x86/cpu: Encapsulate topology information in cpuinfo_x86 Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 05/41] x86/cpu: Move phys_proc_id into topology info Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 06/41] x86/cpu: Move cpu_die_id " Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 07/41] scsi: lpfc: Use topology_core_id() Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 08/41] hwmon: (fam15h_power) " Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 09/41] x86/cpu: Move cpu_core_id into topology info Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 10/41] x86/cpu: Move cu_id " Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 11/41] x86/cpu: Remove pointless evaluation of x86_coreid_bits Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 12/41] x86/cpu: Move logical package and die IDs into topology info Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 13/41] x86/cpu: Move cpu_l[l2]c_id " Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 14/41] x86/apic: Use BAD_APICID consistently Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 15/41] x86/apic: Use u32 for APIC IDs in global data Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:53 ` [patch V4 16/41] x86/apic: Use u32 for check_apicid_used() Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 17/41] x86/apic: Use u32 for cpu_present_to_apicid() Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 18/41] x86/apic: Use u32 for phys_pkg_id() Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 19/41] x86/apic: Use u32 for [gs]et_apic_id() Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 20/41] x86/apic: Use u32 for wakeup_secondary_cpu[_64]() Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 10:32 ` [tip: x86/core] x86/apic, x86/hyperv: Use u32 in hv_snp_boot_ap() too tip-bot2 for Ingo Molnar
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 21/41] x86/cpu/topology: Cure the abuse of cpuinfo for persisting logical ids Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 22/41] x86/cpu: Provide debug interface Thomas Gleixner
2023-10-13 9:38 ` [tip: x86/core] " tip-bot2 for Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 23/41] x86/cpu: Provide cpuid_read() et al Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 24/41] x86/cpu: Provide cpu_init/parse_topology() Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-28 6:07 ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-08-28 10:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-28 14:03 ` Arjan van de Ven
2023-08-28 14:28 ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-08-28 14:34 ` Arjan van de Ven
2023-08-29 3:16 ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-09-15 11:54 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-09-15 14:04 ` Arjan van de Ven
2023-09-19 3:54 ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-09-19 8:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-09-20 3:23 ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-09-19 13:44 ` Arjan van de Ven
2023-09-20 3:21 ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-09-14 9:20 ` K Prateek Nayak
2023-09-15 11:46 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 25/41] x86/cpu: Add legacy topology parser Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 26/41] x86/cpu: Use common topology code for Centaur and Zhaoxin Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 27/41] x86/cpu: Move __max_die_per_package to common.c Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 28/41] x86/cpu: Provide a sane leaf 0xb/0x1f parser Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-16 12:09 ` Zhang, Rui
2023-08-17 9:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 29/41] x86/cpu: Use common topology code for Intel Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 30/41] x86/cpu/amd: Provide a separate accessor for Node ID Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 31/41] x86/cpu: Provide an AMD/HYGON specific topology parser Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 32/41] x86/smpboot: Teach it about topo.amd_node_id Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 33/41] x86/cpu: Use common topology code for AMD Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 34/41] x86/cpu: Use common topology code for HYGON Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 35/41] x86/mm/numa: Use core domain size on AMD Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 36/41] x86/cpu: Make topology_amd_node_id() use the actual node info Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 37/41] x86/cpu: Remove topology.c Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 38/41] x86/cpu: Remove x86_coreid_bits Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 39/41] x86/apic: Remove unused phys_pkg_id() callback Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 40/41] x86/xen/smp_pv: Remove cpudata fiddling Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 8:54 ` [patch V4 41/41] x86/apic/uv: Remove the private leaf 0xb parser Thomas Gleixner
2023-08-14 14:36 ` [patch V4 00/41] x86/cpu: Rework the topology evaluation Peter Zijlstra
2023-08-16 11:36 ` Zhang, Rui
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