From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756147AbZHFPqD (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:46:03 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1755994AbZHFPqD (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:46:03 -0400 Received: from one.firstfloor.org ([213.235.205.2]:34156 "EHLO one.firstfloor.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1756138AbZHFPqB (ORCPT ); Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:46:01 -0400 To: Greg KH Cc: Alan Cox , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Kay Sievers , Jan Blunck , gregkh@suse.de, Harald Hoyer , Scott James Remnant Subject: Re: [PATCH] Driver Core: devtmpfs - kernel-maintained tmpfs-based /dev From: Andi Kleen References: <20090805171513.GA10443@kroah.com> <20090805192037.19c54c4d@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> <20090805182805.GA7534@kroah.com> <20090805185136.GA21442@kroah.com> Date: Thu, 06 Aug 2009 17:46:00 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20090805185136.GA21442@kroah.com> (Greg KH's message of "Wed, 5 Aug 2009 11:51:36 -0700") Message-ID: <87ljlxhrnr.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/22.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Greg KH writes: > > It makes the userspace boot process much simpler and easier to maintain, > as well as providing a way to handle rescue disks and images trivially, > and it makes the kernel _less_ dependant on the early userspace bootup > scripts. As a initrd less kernel user I can really only agree: getting rid of the udev-in-initrd requirement would be a big step forward in usability. Typically I always have to pre populate a on disk /dev manually first to get my kernels to boot. > And then there's the great reason Kay previously stated, "if sysfs has > all the names, numbers, and device properties, why would we need complex > userspace to have the nodes?" Exactly. -Andi -- ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.