From: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
To: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Nathan Lynch <nathanl@linux.ibm.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 13/15] powerpc/rtas: Use fsleep() to minimize additional sleep duration
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 11:27:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87msjc9uk9.fsf@somnus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZwatTfHxojsZwqHw@localhost.localdomain>
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org> writes:
> Le Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 07:13:39AM +0200, Anna-Maria Behnsen a écrit :
>> When commit 38f7b7067dae ("powerpc/rtas: rtas_busy_delay() improvements")
>> was introduced, documentation about proper usage of sleep realted functions
>
> related*
>
>> was outdated.
>>
>> The commit message references the usage of a HZ=100 system. When using a
>> 20ms sleep duration on such a system and therefore using msleep(), the
>> possible additional slack will be +10ms.
>>
>> When the system is configured with HZ=100 the granularity of a jiffy and of
>> a bucket of the lowest timer wheel level is 10ms. To make sure a timer will
>> not expire early (when queueing of the timer races with an concurrent
>> update of jiffies), timers are always queued into the next bucket. This is
>> the reason for the maximal possible slack of 10ms.
>>
>> fsleep() limits the maximal possible slack to 25% by making threshold
>> between usleep_range() and msleep() HZ dependent. As soon as the accuracy
>> of msleep() is sufficient, the less expensive timer list timer based
>> sleeping function is used instead of the more expensive hrtimer based
>> usleep_range() function. The udelay() will not be used in this specific
>> usecase as the lowest sleep length is larger than 1 microsecond.
>
> Isn't udelay() for everything below 10us ?
It's larger than 1 millisecond...
>
>>
>> Use fsleep() directly instead of using an own heuristic for the best
>> sleeping mechanism to use..
>>
>> Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
>> Cc: Nathan Lynch <nathanl@linux.ibm.com>
>> Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
>> Signed-off-by: Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>
>> Acked-by: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au> (powerpc)
>
> Reviewed-by: Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-10 9:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-11 5:13 [PATCH v2 00/15] timers: Cleanup delay/sleep related mess Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 01/15] MAINTAINERS: Add missing file include/linux/delay.h Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-01 20:11 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 02/15] timers: Move *sleep*() and timeout functions into a separate file Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-01 20:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 03/15] timers: Update schedule_[hr]timeout*() related function descriptions Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-01 21:16 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 04/15] timers: Rename usleep_idle_range() to usleep_range_idle() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 05/15] timers: Update function descriptions of sleep/delay related functions Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-06 21:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-10 8:45 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-10 12:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-11 10:20 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-11 12:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 06/15] delay: Rework udelay and ndelay Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-09-23 15:40 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-08 14:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 07/15] timers: Adjust flseep() to reflect reality Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-08 21:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 08/15] mm/damon/core: Use generic upper bound recommondation for usleep_range() Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-09 12:01 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 09/15] timers: Add a warning to usleep_range_state() for wrong order of arguments Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-09-11 6:41 ` Joe Perches
2024-09-11 7:45 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-09 12:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-10 9:06 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 10/15] checkpatch: Remove broken sleep/delay related checks Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-09-11 6:44 ` Joe Perches
2024-09-11 7:41 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-09 12:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 11/15] regulator: core: Use fsleep() to get best sleep mechanism Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-09 13:37 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 12/15] iopoll/regmap/phy/snd: Fix comment referencing outdated timer documentation Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-09-11 12:08 ` Andrew Lunn
2024-10-09 16:14 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 13/15] powerpc/rtas: Use fsleep() to minimize additional sleep duration Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-09 16:20 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-10 9:27 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen [this message]
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 14/15] media: anysee: Fix link to outdated sleep function documentation Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-09 16:30 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-10-11 10:28 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-09-11 5:13 ` [PATCH v2 15/15] timers/Documentation: Cleanup delay/sleep documentation Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-10 13:10 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-09-16 20:20 ` [PATCH v2 00/15] timers: Cleanup delay/sleep related mess Christophe JAILLET
2024-09-17 5:22 ` Christophe JAILLET
2024-09-23 15:12 ` Anna-Maria Behnsen
2024-10-02 15:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
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