From: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
Christophe Leroy <christophe.leroy@csgroup.eu>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"rostedt@goodmis.org" <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
"aik@ozlabs.ru" <aik@ozlabs.ru>,
Sathvika Vasireddy <sv@linux.ibm.com>,
"naveen.n.rao@linux.vnet.ibm.com"
<naveen.n.rao@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
"Naveen N. Rao" <naveen.n.rao@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] objtool/mcount: Add powerpc specific functions
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:01:38 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87mth9ezml.fsf@mpe.ellerman.id.au> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220328195920.dqlfra3lcardko6r@treble>
Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> writes:
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2022 at 09:09:20AM +0000, Christophe Leroy wrote:
>> Second point is the endianess and 32/64 selection, especially when
>> crossbuilding. There is already some stuff regarding endianess based on
>> bswap_if_needed() but that's based on constant selection at build time
>> and I couldn't find an easy way to set it conditionaly based on the
>> target being built.
>>
>> Regarding 32/64 selection, there is almost nothing, it's based on using
>> type 'long' which means that at the time being the target and the build
>> platform must both be 32 bits or 64 bits.
>>
>> For both cases (endianess and 32/64) I think the solution should
>> probably be to start with the fileformat of the object file being
>> reworked by objtool.
>
> Do we really need to detect the endianness/bitness at runtime? Objtool
> is built with the kernel, why not just build-in the same target
> assumptions as the kernel itself?
I don't think we need runtime detection. But it will need to support
basically most combinations of objtool running as 32-bit/64-bit LE/BE
while the kernel it's analysing is 32-bit/64-bit LE/BE.
>> What are current works in progress on objtool ? Should I wait Josh's
>> changes before starting looking at all this ? Should I wait for anything
>> else ?
>
> I'm not making any major changes to the code, just shuffling things
> around to make the interface more modular. I hope to have something
> soon (this week). Peter recently added a big feature (Intel IBT) which
> is already in -next.
>
> Contributions are welcome, with the understanding that you'll help
> maintain it ;-)
>
> Some years ago Kamalesh Babulal had a prototype of objtool for ppc64le
> which did the full stack validation. I'm not sure what ever became of
> that.
From memory he was starting to clean the patches up in late 2019, but I
guess that probably got derailed by COVID. AFAIK he never posted
anything. Maybe someone at IBM has a copy internally (Naveen?).
> FWIW, there have been some objtool patches for arm64 stack validation,
> but the arm64 maintainers have been hesitant to get on board with
> objtool, as it brings a certain maintenance burden. Especially for the
> full stack validation and ORC unwinder. But if you only want inline
> static calls and/or mcount then it'd probably be much easier to
> maintain.
I would like to have the stack validation, but I am also worried about
the maintenance burden.
I guess we start with mcount, which looks pretty minimal judging by this
series, and see how we go from there.
cheers
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-03-29 12:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-03-18 10:51 [RFC PATCH 0/3] objtool: Add mcount sub-command Sathvika Vasireddy
2022-03-18 10:51 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] objtool: Move common code to utils.c Sathvika Vasireddy
2022-03-23 18:02 ` Miroslav Benes
2022-03-18 10:51 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] objtool: Enable and implement 'mcount' subcommand Sathvika Vasireddy
2022-03-21 7:06 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-03-21 8:19 ` Naveen N. Rao
2022-03-21 8:26 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-03-21 9:48 ` Naveen N. Rao
2022-03-18 10:51 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] objtool/mcount: Add powerpc specific functions Sathvika Vasireddy
2022-03-18 12:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-18 13:59 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-03-21 2:27 ` Michael Ellerman
2022-03-21 6:47 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-03-21 7:46 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-03-21 7:56 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-03-21 8:30 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-03-21 8:59 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-03-26 7:58 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-03-21 6:25 ` Naveen N. Rao
2022-03-27 9:09 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-03-28 19:59 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-03-28 20:14 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-28 20:15 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-03-28 20:21 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-03-29 12:01 ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2022-03-29 17:32 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-03-30 4:26 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-03-30 18:40 ` Naveen N. Rao
2022-05-12 14:52 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-05-12 15:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2022-05-21 9:38 ` Christophe Leroy
2022-05-21 10:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2022-05-23 5:39 ` Naveen N. Rao
2022-03-19 1:35 ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] objtool: Add mcount sub-command Josh Poimboeuf
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