From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1756113AbZEEI6a (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 May 2009 04:58:30 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1754021AbZEEI6U (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 May 2009 04:58:20 -0400 Received: from one.firstfloor.org ([213.235.205.2]:50347 "EHLO one.firstfloor.org" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753234AbZEEI6T (ORCPT ); Tue, 5 May 2009 04:58:19 -0400 To: Matt Mackall Cc: Linus Torvalds , "Eric W. Biederman" , Arjan van de Ven , Jake Edge , security@kernel.org, Linux Kernel Mailing List , James Morris , linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, Eric Paris , Alan Cox , Roland McGrath , mingo@redhat.com, Andrew Morton , Greg KH Subject: Re: [Security] [PATCH] proc: avoid information leaks to non-privileged processes From: Andi Kleen References: <20090504125114.5e391564@chukar> <20090504125124.0f469970@infradead.org> <20090505055011.GE31071@waste.org> Date: Tue, 05 May 2009 10:58:10 +0200 In-Reply-To: <20090505055011.GE31071@waste.org> (Matt Mackall's message of "Tue, 5 May 2009 00:50:11 -0500") Message-ID: <87my9sncyl.fsf@basil.nowhere.org> User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) Emacs/22.3 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Matt Mackall writes: > > Looking forward: > > A faster-but-weakened RNG for ASLR (and similar purposes) We really need it for the user space interface too, right now recent glibc drains your entropy pool on every exec, and worse recent kernels drain it now even with old glibc too. So any system which doesn't have a active high frequency random number source (which is most systems) doesn't have much real entropy left for the applications that really need it. -Andi (who always thought it was a bad idea to let ASLR weaken your SSL/SSH session keys) -- ak@linux.intel.com -- Speaking for myself only.