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From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
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	xueshuai@linux.alibaba.com, joao.m.martins@oracle.com,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 5/5] rqspinlock: use smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait()
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2025 14:31:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o6rsr16w.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aLWDcJiZWD7g8-4S@arm.com>


Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com> writes:

> On Fri, Aug 29, 2025 at 01:07:35AM -0700, Ankur Arora wrote:
>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/rqspinlock.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/rqspinlock.h
>> index a385603436e9..ce8feadeb9a9 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/rqspinlock.h
>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/rqspinlock.h
>> @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@
>>  #define _ASM_RQSPINLOCK_H
>>
>>  #include <asm/barrier.h>
>> +
>> +#define res_smp_cond_load_acquire_waiting() arch_timer_evtstrm_available()
>
> More on this below, I don't think we should define it.
>
>> diff --git a/kernel/bpf/rqspinlock.c b/kernel/bpf/rqspinlock.c
>> index 5ab354d55d82..8de1395422e8 100644
>> --- a/kernel/bpf/rqspinlock.c
>> +++ b/kernel/bpf/rqspinlock.c
>> @@ -82,6 +82,7 @@ struct rqspinlock_timeout {
>>  	u64 duration;
>>  	u64 cur;
>>  	u16 spin;
>> +	u8  wait;
>>  };
>>
>>  #define RES_TIMEOUT_VAL	2
>> @@ -241,26 +242,20 @@ static noinline int check_timeout(rqspinlock_t *lock, u32 mask,
>>  }
>>
>>  /*
>> - * Do not amortize with spins when res_smp_cond_load_acquire is defined,
>> - * as the macro does internal amortization for us.
>> + * Only amortize with spins when we don't have a waiting implementation.
>>   */
>> -#ifndef res_smp_cond_load_acquire
>>  #define RES_CHECK_TIMEOUT(ts, ret, mask)                              \
>>  	({                                                            \
>> -		if (!(ts).spin++)                                     \
>> +		if ((ts).wait || !(ts).spin++)		      \
>>  			(ret) = check_timeout((lock), (mask), &(ts)); \
>>  		(ret);                                                \
>>  	})
>> -#else
>> -#define RES_CHECK_TIMEOUT(ts, ret, mask)			      \
>> -	({ (ret) = check_timeout((lock), (mask), &(ts)); })
>> -#endif
>
> IIUC, RES_CHECK_TIMEOUT in the current res_smp_cond_load_acquire() usage
> doesn't amortise the spins, as the comment suggests, but rather the
> calls to check_timeout(). This is fine, it matches the behaviour of
> smp_cond_load_relaxed_timewait() you introduced in the first patch. The
> only difference is the number of spins - 200 (matching poll_idle) vs 64K
> above. Does 200 work for the above?

Works for me. I had added this because there seemed to be vast gulf between
64K and 200. Happy to drop this.

>>  /*
>>   * Initialize the 'spin' member.
>>   * Set spin member to 0 to trigger AA/ABBA checks immediately.
>>   */
>> -#define RES_INIT_TIMEOUT(ts) ({ (ts).spin = 0; })
>> +#define RES_INIT_TIMEOUT(ts) ({ (ts).spin = 0; (ts).wait = res_smp_cond_load_acquire_waiting(); })
>
> First of all, I don't really like the smp_cond_load_acquire_waiting(),
> that's an implementation detail of smp_cond_load_*_timewait() that
> shouldn't leak outside. But more importantly, RES_CHECK_TIMEOUT() is
> also used outside the smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() condition. The
> (ts).wait check only makes sense when used together with the WFE
> waiting.
>
> I would leave RES_CHECK_TIMEOUT() as is for the stand-alone cases and
> just use check_timeout() in the smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait()
> scenarios. I would also drop the res_smp_cond_load_acquire() macro since
> you now defined smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() generically and can be
> used directly.

Sounds good.

--
ankur

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-02 21:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-29  8:07 [PATCH v4 0/5] barrier: Add smp_cond_load_*_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-08-29  8:07 ` [PATCH v4 1/5] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_relaxed_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-09-01 11:29   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-02 21:34     ` Ankur Arora
2025-08-29  8:07 ` [PATCH v4 2/5] arm64: " Ankur Arora
2025-09-01 11:47   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-02 22:40     ` Ankur Arora
2025-08-29  8:07 ` [PATCH v4 3/5] arm64: rqspinlock: Remove private copy of smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait Ankur Arora
2025-09-01 11:47   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-29  8:07 ` [PATCH v4 4/5] asm-generic: barrier: Add smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-09-01 11:47   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-08-29  8:07 ` [PATCH v4 5/5] rqspinlock: use smp_cond_load_acquire_timewait() Ankur Arora
2025-09-01 11:28   ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-02 17:43     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2025-09-02 21:30       ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-02 21:31     ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2025-08-29 18:54 ` [PATCH v4 0/5] barrier: Add smp_cond_load_*_timewait() Okanovic, Haris
2025-08-29 22:38   ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-01 11:49 ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-02 22:46   ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-03  9:27     ` Catalin Marinas
2025-09-03 18:34       ` Ankur Arora
2025-09-03 15:56   ` Okanovic, Haris

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