From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>,
Wei Liu <wei.liu@kernel.org>, Dexuan Cui <decui@microsoft.com>,
x86@kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>,
Sven Schnelle <svens@linux.ibm.com>,
Huacai Chen <chenhuacai@kernel.org>,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
Subject: Re: [patch V2 25/37] rseq: Rework the TIF_NOTIFY handler
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2025 19:32:42 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87o6rszrnp.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0610d1be-15b4-40a6-8bec-307e62f810bb@efficios.com>
On Tue, Aug 26 2025 at 11:12, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> On 2025-08-23 12:40, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> +void __rseq_handle_notify_resume(struct pt_regs *regs)
>> +{
>> + /*
>> + * If invoked from hypervisors before entering the guest via
>> + * resume_user_mode_work(), then @regs is a NULL pointer.
>> + *
>> + * resume_user_mode_work() clears TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME and re-raises
>> + * it before returning from the ioctl() to user space when
>> + * rseq_event.sched_switch is set.
>> + *
>> + * So it's safe to ignore here instead of pointlessly updating it
>> + * in the vcpu_run() loop.
>
> I don't think any virt user should expect the userspace fields to be
> updated on the host process while running in guest mode, but it's good
> to clarify that we intend to change this user-visible behavior within
> this series, to spare any unwelcome surprise.
Actually it is not really a user-visible change.
TLS::rseq is thread local and any update to it becomes only visible to
user space once the vCPU thread actually returns to user space. Arguably
no guest has legitimately access to the hosts VCPU thread's TLS.
You might argue, that GDB might look at the thread's TLS::rseq while the
task runs in VCPUs guest mode. But that's completely irrelevant because
once a task enters the kernel the RSEQ CPU/NODE/MM ids have no meaning
anymore. They are only valid as long as the task runs in user space.
When a task hits a breakpoint GDB can only look at the state _before_
that and that's all what it can see when it looks at the TLS of a
thread, which voluntarily went into the kernel via the KVM ioctl.
That update is truly a kernel internal implementation detail and it got
introduced way _after_ the initial RSEQ implementation.
Before 5.9 KVM ignored most of the pending TIF work including
TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME. Once that got fixed it turned out that handling the
other TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME work could result in losing an RSEQ update. To
cure that the rseq handler got pulled in to that TIF_NOTIFY_RESUME
demultiplexing function and gained that NULL pointer check inside to
exclude the critical section check.
In hindsight RSEQ should have used a separate TIF bit right from the
beginning, but that's water under the bridge...
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-02 17:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 102+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-23 16:39 [patch V2 00/37] rseq: Optimize exit to user space Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 01/37] rseq: Avoid pointless evaluation in __rseq_notify_resume() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 02/37] rseq: Condense the inline stubs Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 03/37] resq: Move algorithm comment to top Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 04/37] rseq: Remove the ksig argument from rseq_handle_notify_resume() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 05/37] rseq: Simplify registration Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 15:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 06/37] rseq: Simplify the event notification Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 17:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 07/37] rseq, virt: Retrigger RSEQ after vcpu_run() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 17:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-25 20:24 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02 15:37 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 08/37] rseq: Avoid CPU/MM CID updates when no event pending Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:02 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:41 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:20 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 09/37] rseq: Introduce struct rseq_event Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:11 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 10/37] entry: Cleanup header Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 11/37] entry: Remove syscall_enter_from_user_mode_prepare() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 12/37] entry: Inline irqentry_enter/exit_from/to_user_mode() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 13/37] sched: Move MM CID related functions to sched.h Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:14 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 14/37] rseq: Cache CPU ID and MM CID values Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:19 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 15/37] rseq: Record interrupt from user space Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:29 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 13:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 16/37] rseq: Provide tracepoint wrappers for inline code Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:32 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 17/37] rseq: Expose lightweight statistics in debugfs Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 18/37] rseq: Provide static branch for runtime debugging Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 18:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-25 20:30 ` Michael Jeanson
2025-09-02 13:56 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 19/37] rseq: Provide and use rseq_update_user_cs() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 19:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 15:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 20/37] rseq: Replace the debug crud Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 14:21 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:39 ` [patch V2 21/37] rseq: Make exit debugging static branch based Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 14:23 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 22/37] rseq: Use static branch for syscall exit debug when GENERIC_IRQ_ENTRY=y Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 14:28 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 23/37] rseq: Provide and use rseq_set_uids() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 14:52 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 14:08 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-02 16:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:25 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 24/37] rseq: Seperate the signal delivery path Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:08 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 25/37] rseq: Rework the TIF_NOTIFY handler Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:12 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 17:32 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2025-09-04 9:52 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-04 10:53 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:07 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 26/37] rseq: Optimize event setting Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:26 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 14:17 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 27/37] rseq: Implement fast path for exit to user Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 18:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 28/37] rseq: Switch to fast path processing on " Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:40 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-27 13:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-02 18:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 17:54 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-09-04 21:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 29/37] entry: Split up exit_to_user_mode_prepare() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:41 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 30/37] rseq: Split up rseq_exit_to_user_mode() Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-26 15:45 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 31/37] asm-generic: Provide generic TIF infrastructure Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 20:37 ` Arnd Bergmann
2025-08-25 19:33 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 32/37] x86: Use generic TIF bits Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 19:34 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 33/37] s390: " Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 34/37] loongarch: " Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 35/37] riscv: " Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 36/37] rseq: Switch to TIF_RSEQ if supported Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 19:39 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-25 20:02 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-02 11:03 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-09-04 10:08 ` Sean Christopherson
2025-09-04 12:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-23 16:40 ` [patch V2 37/37] entry/rseq: Optimize for TIF_RSEQ on exit Thomas Gleixner
2025-08-25 19:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2025-08-25 15:10 ` [patch V2 00/37] rseq: Optimize exit to user space Mathieu Desnoyers
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