From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on aws-us-west-2-korg-lkml-1.web.codeaurora.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.8 required=3.0 tests=BAYES_00, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 Received: from mail.kernel.org (mail.kernel.org [198.145.29.99]) by smtp.lore.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83F1AC43462 for ; Sun, 16 May 2021 20:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vger.kernel.org (vger.kernel.org [23.128.96.18]) by mail.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470DB61151 for ; Sun, 16 May 2021 20:24:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S233573AbhEPUZQ (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 May 2021 16:25:16 -0400 Received: from lindbergh.monkeyblade.net ([23.128.96.19]:52964 "EHLO lindbergh.monkeyblade.net" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S233417AbhEPUZP (ORCPT ); Sun, 16 May 2021 16:25:15 -0400 X-Greylist: delayed 311 seconds by postgrey-1.37 at lindbergh.monkeyblade.net; Sun, 16 May 2021 13:24:00 PDT Received: from cascadia.aikidev.net (cascadia.aikidev.net [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:267:0:a171:de7:c]) by lindbergh.monkeyblade.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CF0C061573; Sun, 16 May 2021 13:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [IPv6:2600:3c01:e000:21:21:21:0:100b]) (Authenticated sender: vagrant@aikidev.net) by cascadia.aikidev.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C567D1A904; Sun, 16 May 2021 13:18:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Vagrant Cascadian To: Salvatore Bonaccorso , Jernej =?utf-8?Q?=C5=A0krabe?= =?utf-8?Q?c?= Cc: Maxime Ripard , "B.R. Oake" , devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-sunxi@googlegroups.com, Rob Herring , Chen-Yu Tsai , linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: dts: sun8i: h3: orangepi-plus: Fix Ethernet PHY mode In-Reply-To: References: <1243888060.510560.1612783497400@ichabod.co-bxl> <20210210150118.ly252i37eykayrcb@gilmour> <1719200956.433094.1613199092092@ichabod.co-bxl> <6612268.HtAl026vyE@jernej-laptop> Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 13:18:44 -0700 Message-ID: <87o8dawhy3.fsf@yucca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 2021-05-16, Salvatore Bonaccorso wrote: > On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 09:51:17AM +0100, Jernej =C5=A0krabec wrote: >> Let me first explain that it was oversight on my side not noticing initi= als in=20 >> your SoB tag. But since the issue was raised by Maxime, I didn't follow = up. >>=20 >> Dne sobota, 13. februar 2021 ob 07:51:32 CET je B.R. Oake napisal(a): >> > On Wed Feb 10 at 16:01:18 CET 2021, Maxime Ripard wrote: >> > > Unfortunately we can't take this patch as is, this needs to be your = real >> > > name, see: >> > > https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/process/submitting-patches.ht= ml#de >> > > veloper-s-certificate-of-origin-1-1 >> > Dear Maxime, >> >=20 >> > Thank you very much for considering my contribution and for all your >> > work on supporting sunxi-based hardware; I appreciate it. >> >=20 >> > Thank you for referring me to the Developer's Certificate of Origin, b= ut >> > I had already read it before submitting (I had to do so in order to kn= ow >> > what I was saying by "Signed-off-by:") and I do certify what it says. >> >=20 >> > Looking through recent entries in the commit log of the mainline kerne= l, >> > I see several patches from authors such as: >> >=20 >> > H.J. Lu >> > B K Karthik >> > JC Kuo >> > EJ Hsu >> > LH Lin >> > KP Singh >> > Karthik B S >> > Shreyas NC >> > Vandana BN >> >=20 >> > so I believe names of this form are in fact acceptable, even if the >> > style might seem a little old-fashioned to some. >>=20 >> Speaking generally, not only for this case, prior art arguments rarely h= old,=20 >> because: >> - it might be oversight, >> - it might be a bad practice, which should not be followed in new=20 >> contributions, >> - different maintainers have different point of view on same thing, >> - maintainer wants to adapt new practice or steer subsystem in new direc= tion >>=20 >> >=20 >> > I would like to add that I have met many people with names such as C.J= ., >> > A A, TC, MG, etc. That is what everybody calls them and it would be >> > natural for them to sign themselves that way. Some of them might want = to >> > contribute to Linux some day, and I think it would be a great shame and >> > a loss to all of us if they were discouraged from doing so by reading >> > our conversation in the archives and concluding that any contribution >> > from them, however small, would be summarily refused simply because of >> > their name. Please could you ensure that does not happen? >>=20 >> The link you posted says following: >> "using your real name (sorry, no pseudonyms or anonymous contributions.)" >>=20 >> I believe that real name means no initials, no matter what people are=20 >> accustomed to. From my point of view, CJ is pseudonym derived from real = name. >>=20 >> This is not the first time that fix of SoB tag was requested, you can fi= nd such=20 >> requests in ML archives. I'm sure this isn't the first time this sort of thing has been brought up on this subject, but I feel obliged to mention: https://www.kalzumeus.com/2010/06/17/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about= -names/ This seems to be blocked on culturally dependent perception of what looks like a "real name" as opposed to any technical grounds. What is the goal of the "real name" in Signed-off-by actually trying to achieve? live well, vagrant --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iHUEARYKAB0WIQRlgHNhO/zFx+LkXUXcUY/If5cWqgUCYKF+JQAKCRDcUY/If5cW qsokAP9nYxJeAbCY5XVe6Mq51MJdRig2BlF4b3b5KwBHW0fy7QD/ddOU4rtOhc6s fmXJjZNIdsqtIoXZwCygfIhnMmWoAg8= =o8xs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--