From: "Bjørn Mork" <bjorn@mork.no>
To: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
Cc: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>, Kay Sievers <kay@vrfy.org>,
Myron Stowe <mstowe@redhat.com>,
Myron Stowe <myron.stowe@redhat.com>,
linux-hotplug@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
yuxiangl@marvell.com, yxlraid@gmail.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] udevadm-info: Don't access sysfs 'resource<N>' files
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 18:20:46 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87obeg39qp.fsf@nemi.mork.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1363625463.24132.367.camel@bling.home> (Alex Williamson's message of "Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:51:03 -0600")
Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com> writes:
> At least for KVM the kernel fix is the addition of the vfio driver which
> gives us a non-sysfs way to do this. If this problem was found a few
> years later and we were ready to make the switch I'd support just
> removing these resource files. In the meantime we have userspace that
> depends on this interface, so I'm open to suggestions how to fix it.
I am puzzled by a couple of things in this discussion:
1) do you seriously mean that a userspace application (any, not just
udevadm or qemu or whatever) should be able to read and write these
registers while the device is owned by a driver? How is that ever
going to work?
2) is it really so that a device can be so fundamentally screwed up by
reading some registers, that a later driver probe cannot properly
reinitialize it?
I would have thought that the solution to all this was to return -EINVAL
on any attemt to read or write these files while a driver is bound to
the device. If userspace is going to use the API, then the application
better unbind any driver first.
Or? Am I missing something here?
> If we want to blacklist this specific device, that's fine, but as others
> have pointed out it's really a class problem. Perhaps we report 1 byte
> extra for the file length where EOF-1 is an enable byte? Is there
> anything else in file ops that we could use to make it slightly more
> complicated than open(), read() to access the device? Thanks,
If there really are devices which cannot handle reading at all, and
cannot be reset to a sane state by later driver initialization, then a
blacklist could be added for those devices. This should not be a common
problem.
Bjørn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-03-18 17:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-03-16 21:35 [PATCH] udevadm-info: Don't access sysfs entries backing device I/O port space Myron Stowe
2013-03-16 21:35 ` [PATCH] udevadm-info: Don't access sysfs 'resource<N>' files Myron Stowe
2013-03-16 22:11 ` Greg KH
2013-03-16 22:55 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2013-03-16 23:50 ` Myron Stowe
2013-03-17 1:03 ` Greg KH
2013-03-17 4:11 ` Alex Williamson
2013-03-17 5:36 ` Greg KH
2013-03-17 13:38 ` Alex Williamson
2013-03-17 14:00 ` Kay Sievers
2013-03-17 14:20 ` Myron Stowe
2013-03-17 14:29 ` Kay Sievers
2013-03-17 14:36 ` Myron Stowe
2013-03-17 14:43 ` Kay Sievers
2013-03-18 16:24 ` Alex Williamson
2013-03-18 16:41 ` Greg KH
2013-03-18 16:51 ` Alex Williamson
2013-03-18 17:20 ` Bjørn Mork [this message]
2013-03-18 17:54 ` Alex Williamson
2013-03-18 18:02 ` Robert Brown
2013-03-18 18:25 ` Bjørn Mork
2013-03-18 18:59 ` Alex Williamson
2013-03-19 16:57 ` Myron Stowe
2013-03-19 17:06 ` Myron Stowe
2013-03-17 14:33 ` Myron Stowe
2013-03-17 22:28 ` Alex Williamson
2013-03-18 14:50 ` Don Dutile
2013-03-18 16:34 ` Alex Williamson
2013-03-17 14:12 ` Myron Stowe
2013-03-19 1:54 ` Robert Hancock
2013-03-19 2:03 ` Greg KH
2013-03-19 2:09 ` Robert Hancock
2013-03-19 2:35 ` Greg KH
2013-03-19 3:08 ` Robert Hancock
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