From: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] exit: kill signal_struct->quick_threads
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2024 07:15:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r0d5t2nt.fsf@email.froward.int.ebiederm.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240609142342.GA11165@redhat.com> (Oleg Nesterov's message of "Sun, 9 Jun 2024 16:23:42 +0200")
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> writes:
> Hello,
>
> Eric, I can't understand why the commit ("signal: Guarantee that
> SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT is set on process exit") added the new
> quick_threads counter. And why, if we forget about --quick_threads,
> synchronize_group_exit() has to take siglock unconditionally.
> Did I miss something obvious?
At a minimum it is the exact same locking as everywhere else that sets
signal->flags, signal->group_exit_code, and signal->group_stop_count
uses.
So it would probably require some significant reason to not use
the same locking and complicate reasoning about the code. I suspect
setting those values without siglock held is likely to lead to
interesting races.
May I ask which direction you are coming at this from? Are you trying
to reduce the cost of do_exit? Are you interested in untangling the
mess that is exiting threads in a process?
I have a branch around that I was slowly working through to detangle
the entire mess. And if you are interested I can dig it back up.
My memory is I had all of the known issues worked through but I still
needed to feed the code through code review and merge it in small steps
to ensure I don't introduce regressions.
That is where signal->quick_threads comes from. In the work it is a
part of I wind up moving the decrement up much sooner to the point where
individual threads decide to exit. The decrement of signal->live comes
much too late to be useful in that context.
It is also part of me wanting to be able to uniformly use
SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT and signal->group_exit_code when talking about the
process state, and p->exit_code when talking about the per task state.
At the moment I am staring at wait_task_zombie and trying to understand
how:
status = (p->signal->flags & SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT)
? p->signal->group_exit_code : p->exit_code;
works without any locks or barriers.
Eric
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-06-10 13:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-06-09 14:23 [PATCH 0/1] exit: kill signal_struct->quick_threads Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-09 14:24 ` [PATCH 1/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-09 18:28 ` [PATCH 0/1] " Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-10 10:50 ` Q: css_task_iter_advance() && dying_tasks Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-10 11:08 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-10 20:02 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-10 20:00 ` Tejun Heo
2024-06-10 12:15 ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2024-06-10 15:29 ` [PATCH 0/1] exit: kill signal_struct->quick_threads Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-10 15:42 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-10 16:18 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-13 15:45 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-15 14:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-17 18:37 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-19 3:48 ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 4:04 ` [PATCH 0/17] exit: complete synchronize_group_exit Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 4:05 ` [PATCH 01/17] signal: Make SIGKILL during coredumps an explicit special case Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 15:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-19 18:09 ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 19:11 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-21 5:46 ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-21 10:40 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-21 16:30 ` Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 4:05 ` [PATCH 02/17] signal: Compute the process exit_code in get_signal Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-25 12:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-19 4:06 ` [PATCH 03/17] coredump: Consolidate the work to allow SIGKILL during coredumps Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-25 12:34 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-19 4:06 ` [PATCH 04/17] signal: In get_signal call do_exit when it is unnecessary to shoot down threads Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-25 12:35 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-19 4:07 ` [PATCH 05/17] signal: Bring down all threads when handling a non-coredump fatal signal Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-25 12:56 ` Oleg Nesterov
2024-06-19 4:07 ` [PATCH 06/17] signal: Add JOBCTL_WILL_EXIT to mark exiting tasks Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 4:08 ` [PATCH 07/17] signal: Always set JOBCTL_WILL_EXIT for " Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-30 14:00 ` kernel test robot
2024-06-19 4:08 ` [PATCH 08/17] signal: Don't target tasks that are exiting Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 4:09 ` [PATCH 09/17] signal: Test for process exit or de_thread using task_exit_pending Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 4:09 ` [PATCH 10/17] signal: Only set JOBCTL_WILL_EXIT if it is not already set Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 4:10 ` [PATCH 11/17] signal: Make individual tasks exiting a first class concept Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 4:10 ` [PATCH 12/17] signal: Remove zap_other_threads Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 4:11 ` [PATCH 13/17] signal: Stop skipping current in do_group_exit & get_signal Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-28 5:43 ` kernel test robot
2024-06-19 4:11 ` [PATCH 14/17] signal: Factor out schedule_group_exit_locked Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 4:12 ` [PATCH 15/17] ptrace: Separate task->ptrace_code out from task->exit_code Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 4:12 ` [PATCH 16/17] signal: Record the exit_code when an exit is scheduled Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 4:13 ` [PATCH 17/17] signal: Set SIGNAL_GROUP_EXIT when all tasks have decided to exit Eric W. Biederman
2024-06-19 20:18 ` [PATCH 0/1] exit: kill signal_struct->quick_threads Oleg Nesterov
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