From: Felipe Balbi <balbi@kernel.org>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
Paul Elder <paul.elder@ideasonboard.com>, Bin Liu <b-liu@ti.com>,
kieran.bingham@ideasonboard.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
rogerq@ti.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/6] usb: gadget: add functions to signal udc driver to delay status stage
Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2018 09:00:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r2fxtlrj.fsf@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1811060939160.1450-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>
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Hi,
Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu> writes:
>> DATA stage always depends on a usb_ep_queue() from gadget driver. So
>> it's always "delayed" in that sense.
>
> However, it's conceivable that some UDC drivers might behave
> differently depending on whether the usb_ep_queue call occurs within
> the setup callback or after that callback returns. They _shouldn't_,
> but they might.
but now we're speculating. Should we really care before we catch
regressions?
>> it avoids all the special cases. UDC drivers can implement a single
>> handling for struct usb_request. We could do away with special return
>> values and so on...
>
> It's not quite so simple, because the UDC driver will need to keep
> track of whether a request queued on ep0 should be in the IN or the OUT
> direction. (Maybe they have to do this already, I don't know.)
UDC drivers already have to do that.
>> > request and the UDC would then need to check whether that request corresponds
>> > to a status stage and process it accordingly. A new operation specific to this
>>
>> no, it wouldn't. UDC would have to check the size of request, that's
>> all:
>>
>> if (r->length == 0)
>> special_zlp_handling();
>> else
>> regular_non_zlp_handling();
>
> Checking the length isn't enough. A data stage can have 0 length.
apologies, I meant wLength, like so:
len = le16_to_cpu(ctrl->wLength);
if (!len) {
dwc->three_stage_setup = false;
dwc->ep0_expect_in = false;
dwc->ep0_next_event = DWC3_EP0_NRDY_STATUS;
} else {
dwc->three_stage_setup = true;
dwc->ep0_expect_in = !!(ctrl->bRequestType & USB_DIR_IN);
dwc->ep0_next_event = DWC3_EP0_NRDY_DATA;
}
>> But we don't need to care about special return values and the like. We
>> don't even need to care (from UDC perspective) if we're dealing with
>> 2-stage or 3-stage control transfers (well, dwc3 needs to care because
>> of different TRB types that needs to be used, but that's another story)
>
> No, we do need to care because of the direction issue.
special return values would be rendered uncessary if there's agreement
that status stage is always explicit. Why would need
USB_GADGET_DELAYED_STATUS if every case returns that?
>> > There's also the fact that requests can specify a completion handler, but only
>> > the data stage request would see its completion handler called (unless we
>> > require UDCs to call completion requests at the completion of the status
>> > stage, but I'm not sure that all UDCs can report the event to the driver, and
>> > that would likely be useless as nobody needs that feature).
>>
>> you still wanna know if the host actually processed your status
>> stage. udc-core can (and should) provide a generic status stage
>> completion function which, at a minimum, aids with some tracepoints.
>
> Helping with tracepoints is fine. However, I don't think function
> drivers really need to know whether the status stage was processed by
> the host. Can you point out any examples where such information would
> be useful?
If you know your STATUS stage completed, you have a guarantee that your
previous control transfer is complete. It's a very clear signal that you
should prepare for more control transfers.
>> >> (But it does involve a
>> >> race in cases where the host gets tired of waiting and issues another
>> >> SETUP packet before the processing of the first transfer is finished.)
>>
>> Host would stall first in that case.
>
> I don't follow. Suppose the host sends a SETUP packet for an IN
> transfer, but the gadget takes so long to send the IN data back that
> the host times out. So then the host sends a SETUP packet for a new
> transfer. No stalls.
>
> (Besides, hosts never send STALL packets anyway. Only peripherals do.)
oh okay. This is the setup_packet_pending case.
>> > To simplify function drivers, do you think the above proposal of adding a flag
>> > to the (data stage) request to request an automatic transition to the status
>> > stage is a good idea ? We could even possibly invert the logic and transition
>>
>> no, I don't think so. Making the status phase always explicit is far
>> better. UDCs won't have to check flags, or act on magic return
>> values. It just won't do anything until a request is queued.
>
> I don't agree. This would be a simple test in a localized area (the
> completion callback for control requests). It could even be
> implemented by a library routine; the UDC driver would simply have to
> call this routine immediately after invoking the callback.
I don't follow what you mean here.
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balbi
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-11-07 7:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-10-10 2:48 [PATCH 0/6] usb: gadget: add mechanism to asynchronously validate data stage of ctrl out request Paul Elder
2018-10-10 2:48 ` [PATCH 1/6] usb: uvc: include videodev2.h in g_uvc.h Paul Elder
2018-10-10 13:42 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-10 2:48 ` [PATCH 2/6] usb: gadget: uvc: enqueue usb request in setup handler for control OUT Paul Elder
2018-10-10 2:49 ` [PATCH 3/6] usb: gadget: uvc: package setup and data for control OUT requests Paul Elder
2018-10-10 2:49 ` [PATCH 4/6] usb: gadget: add functions to signal udc driver to delay status stage Paul Elder
2018-10-11 16:10 ` Bin Liu
2018-10-17 23:45 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-18 12:46 ` Bin Liu
2018-10-18 14:07 ` Alan Stern
2018-11-01 23:40 ` Paul Elder
2018-11-02 12:44 ` Laurent Pinchart
[not found] ` <87h8gzy5y7.fsf@linux.intel.com>
2018-11-02 14:36 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-02 16:18 ` Alan Stern
2018-11-02 17:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-11-02 19:46 ` Alan Stern
2018-11-06 11:24 ` Felipe Balbi
2018-11-06 15:01 ` Alan Stern
2018-11-07 6:53 ` Felipe Balbi
2018-11-06 11:17 ` Felipe Balbi
2018-11-06 14:51 ` Alan Stern
2018-11-07 7:00 ` Felipe Balbi [this message]
2018-11-07 16:23 ` Alan Stern
2018-12-14 3:47 ` Paul Elder
2018-12-14 15:35 ` Alan Stern
2018-10-10 2:49 ` [PATCH 5/6] usb: musb: gadget: implement send_response Paul Elder
2018-10-11 16:07 ` Bin Liu
2018-10-31 23:26 ` Paul Elder
2018-10-10 2:49 ` [PATCH 6/6] usb: gadget: uvc: allow ioctl to send response in status stage Paul Elder
2018-10-10 12:57 ` [PATCH 0/6] usb: gadget: add mechanism to asynchronously validate data stage of ctrl out request Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-11 19:31 ` Bin Liu
2018-10-17 23:42 ` Laurent Pinchart
2018-10-18 12:40 ` Bin Liu
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