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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: "x86\@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"konrad.wilk\@oracle.com" <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@oracle.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
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Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v3 00/11] xen: Initial kexec/kdump implementation
Date: Wed, 02 Jan 2013 03:47:28 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87r4m3yffz.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <50E41973.9050705@citrix.com> (Andrew Cooper's message of "Wed, 2 Jan 2013 11:26:43 +0000")

Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> writes:

> On 27/12/12 18:02, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> Andrew Cooper<andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>  writes:
>>
>>> On 27/12/2012 07:53, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>>>> The syscall ABI still has the wrong semantics.
>>>>
>>>> Aka totally unmaintainable and umergeable.
>>>>
>>>> The concept of domU support is also strange.  What does domU support even mean, when the dom0 support is loading a kernel to pick up Xen when Xen falls over.
>>> There are two requirements pulling at this patch series, but I agree
>>> that we need to clarify them.
>> It probably make sense to split them apart a little even.
>>
>>
>
> Thinking about this split, there might be a way to simply it even more.
>
> /sbin/kexec can load the "Xen" crash kernel itself by issuing
> hypercalls using /dev/xen/privcmd.  This would remove the need for the
> dom0 kernel to distinguish between loading a crash kernel for itself
> and loading a kernel for Xen.
>
> Or is this just a silly idea complicating the matter?

At a first approximation it sounds reasonable.

If the Xen kexec actually copies the loaded kernel to somewhere internal
like the linux kexec that would be entirely reasonable.  If Xen has
other requirements on the dom0 case you might not be able to implement
the call without linux kernel support.

But if you can implement it all in terms of /dev/xen/privcmd go for it.

Eric


  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-02 11:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-27  2:18 [PATCH v3 00/11] xen: Initial kexec/kdump implementation Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18 ` [PATCH v3 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec firmware support Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18   ` [PATCH v3 02/11] x86/kexec: Add extra pointers to transition page table PGD, PUD, PMD and PTE Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] xen: Introduce architecture independent data for kexec/kdump Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18       ` [PATCH v3 04/11] x86/xen: Introduce architecture dependent " Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18         ` [PATCH v3 05/11] x86/xen: Register resources required by kexec-tools Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18           ` [PATCH v3 06/11] x86/xen: Add i386 kexec/kdump implementation Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18             ` [PATCH v3 07/11] x86/xen: Add x86_64 " Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18               ` [PATCH v3 08/11] x86/xen: Add kexec/kdump Kconfig and makefile rules Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18                 ` [PATCH v3 09/11] x86/xen/enlighten: Add init and crash kexec/kdump hooks Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:18                   ` [PATCH v3 10/11] drivers/xen: Export vmcoreinfo through sysfs Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  2:19                     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] x86: Add Xen kexec control code size check to linker script Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27 18:53                   ` [PATCH v3 09/11] x86/xen/enlighten: Add init and crash kexec/kdump hooks H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-27  4:00             ` [PATCH v3 06/11] x86/xen: Add i386 kexec/kdump implementation H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-27  3:33     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] x86/kexec: Add extra pointers to transition page table PGD, PUD, PMD and PTE H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-03  9:34     ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-04 15:15       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-04 16:12         ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-04 17:25           ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-07  9:48             ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-07 12:52               ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-07 13:05                 ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-09 18:42                   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-10 14:07         ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2013-01-11 13:36           ` Daniel Kiper
2012-12-27  4:46   ` [PATCH v3 01/11] kexec: introduce kexec firmware support Eric W. Biederman
2012-12-27  4:02 ` [PATCH v3 00/11] xen: Initial kexec/kdump implementation H. Peter Anvin
2012-12-27  7:53   ` Eric W. Biederman
2012-12-27 14:18     ` Andrew Cooper
2012-12-27 18:02       ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-02 11:26         ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2013-01-02 11:47           ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2013-01-03  9:31           ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-04 14:22           ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-04 14:34             ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-04 14:34             ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-04 14:38             ` David Vrabel
2013-01-04 17:01               ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-10 14:19                 ` David Vrabel
2013-01-11 13:22                   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-11 15:22                     ` David Vrabel
2013-01-11 17:34                       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-11 20:05                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-04 14:41             ` Jan Beulich
2013-01-04 17:07               ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-04 19:11                 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-07 10:25                   ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-07 10:46                     ` Andrew Cooper
2013-01-07 10:54                       ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-07 12:34                   ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-07 13:49                     ` Ian Campbell
2013-01-11 13:47                       ` Daniel Kiper
2013-01-07 16:20                     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-11  4:16                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-11 16:55                         ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2013-01-11 20:26                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-11 20:43                             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-01-11 20:26                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2013-01-11 20:52                             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-01-11 21:03                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-11 21:08                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-01-11 21:14                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-01-02 15:27       ` Ian Campbell

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