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From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
	tglx@linutronix.de, paulmck@kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
	juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
	bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
	frederic@kernel.org, efault@gmx.de, sshegde@linux.ibm.com,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] osnoise: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPTION=y
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:59:48 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sertnlbv.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241114092225.lVdeX1wG@linutronix.de>


Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> writes:

> On 2024-11-06 12:17:57 [-0800], Ankur Arora wrote:
>> To reduce RCU noise for nohz_full configurations, osnoise depends
>> on cond_resched() providing quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n
>> configurations. And, for PREEMPT_RCU=y configurations does this
>> by directly calling rcu_momentary_eqs().
>>
>> With PREEMPT_LAZY=y, however, we can have configurations with
>> (PREEMPTION=y, PREEMPT_RCU=n), which means neither of the above
>> can help.
>
> The problem is as you say CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=n + CONFIG_PREEMPTION=y.
> You can't select any of those two directly but get here via
>  PREEMPT_LAZY=y + PREEMPT_DYNAMIC=n.
>
> Please spell it out to make it obvious. It is not a large group of
> configurations, it is exactly this combo.

Makes sense.

Will do. Thanks.

Ankur

>  With PREEMPT_LAZY=y + PREEMPT_DYNAMIC=n however we get PREEMPT_RCU=n
>  which means no direct rcu_momentary_eqs() invocations and
>  cond_resched() is an empty stub.
>
>> Handle that by fallback to the explicit quiescent states via
>> rcu_momentary_eqs().
>
>> Cc: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
>> Suggested-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
>> Acked-by: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
>
> Sebastian


--
ankur

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-15  5:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-06 20:17 [PATCH v2 0/6] RCU changes for PREEMPT_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] rcu: fix header guard for rcu_all_qs() Ankur Arora
2024-11-13 14:50   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-14  7:06   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-15  4:55     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] rcu: rename PREEMPT_AUTO to PREEMPT_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-11-13 14:59   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-13 23:51     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-14  7:07   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] rcu: limit PREEMPT_RCU configurations Ankur Arora
2024-11-13 15:31   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-14  0:23     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-14  8:25       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-14 11:36         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-25 21:40     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-26 14:49       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-27  5:35         ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-27  6:19           ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-28 12:33             ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-29  4:39               ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-29 12:49                 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] rcu: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPT_COUNT=y Ankur Arora
2024-11-14  8:50   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-15  4:58     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-28 13:36   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] osnoise: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPTION=y Ankur Arora
2024-11-14  9:22   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-15  4:59     ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2024-11-28 14:33   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-29  5:03     ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-29 14:22       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-29 19:21         ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] sched: warn for high latency with TIF_NEED_RESCHED_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-11-14  9:16   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-14 10:01 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] RCU changes for PREEMPT_LAZY Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-15  5:20   ` Ankur Arora

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