From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, paulmck@kernel.org, mingo@kernel.org,
juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
frederic@kernel.org, efault@gmx.de, sshegde@linux.ibm.com,
boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/6] osnoise: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPTION=y
Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2024 20:59:48 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sertnlbv.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241114092225.lVdeX1wG@linutronix.de>
Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> writes:
> On 2024-11-06 12:17:57 [-0800], Ankur Arora wrote:
>> To reduce RCU noise for nohz_full configurations, osnoise depends
>> on cond_resched() providing quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n
>> configurations. And, for PREEMPT_RCU=y configurations does this
>> by directly calling rcu_momentary_eqs().
>>
>> With PREEMPT_LAZY=y, however, we can have configurations with
>> (PREEMPTION=y, PREEMPT_RCU=n), which means neither of the above
>> can help.
>
> The problem is as you say CONFIG_PREEMPT_RCU=n + CONFIG_PREEMPTION=y.
> You can't select any of those two directly but get here via
> PREEMPT_LAZY=y + PREEMPT_DYNAMIC=n.
>
> Please spell it out to make it obvious. It is not a large group of
> configurations, it is exactly this combo.
Makes sense.
Will do. Thanks.
Ankur
> With PREEMPT_LAZY=y + PREEMPT_DYNAMIC=n however we get PREEMPT_RCU=n
> which means no direct rcu_momentary_eqs() invocations and
> cond_resched() is an empty stub.
>
>> Handle that by fallback to the explicit quiescent states via
>> rcu_momentary_eqs().
>
>> Cc: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org>
>> Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
>> Suggested-by: Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org>
>> Acked-by: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@kernel.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
>
> Sebastian
--
ankur
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-11-15 5:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-06 20:17 [PATCH v2 0/6] RCU changes for PREEMPT_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 1/6] rcu: fix header guard for rcu_all_qs() Ankur Arora
2024-11-13 14:50 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-14 7:06 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-15 4:55 ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 2/6] rcu: rename PREEMPT_AUTO to PREEMPT_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-11-13 14:59 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-13 23:51 ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-14 7:07 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 3/6] rcu: limit PREEMPT_RCU configurations Ankur Arora
2024-11-13 15:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-14 0:23 ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-14 8:25 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-14 11:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-25 21:40 ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-26 14:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-27 5:35 ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-27 6:19 ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-28 12:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-29 4:39 ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-29 12:49 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 4/6] rcu: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPT_COUNT=y Ankur Arora
2024-11-14 8:50 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-15 4:58 ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-28 13:36 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 5/6] osnoise: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPTION=y Ankur Arora
2024-11-14 9:22 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-15 4:59 ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2024-11-28 14:33 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-29 5:03 ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-29 14:22 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2024-11-29 19:21 ` Ankur Arora
2024-11-06 20:17 ` [PATCH v2 6/6] sched: warn for high latency with TIF_NEED_RESCHED_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-11-14 9:16 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-14 10:01 ` [PATCH v2 0/6] RCU changes for PREEMPT_LAZY Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-11-15 5:20 ` Ankur Arora
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