From: Punit Agrawal <punitagrawal@gmail.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: Wei Huang <whuang2@amd.com>,
rjw@rjwysocki.net, wei.huang2@amd.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/4] cpufreq: acpi-cpufreq: Add processor to the ignore PSD override list
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 22:27:09 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sg88tt5e.fsf@stealth> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201214124023.GA25916@zn.tnic> (Borislav Petkov's message of "Mon, 14 Dec 2020 13:40:23 +0100")
Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de> writes:
> On Sat, Dec 12, 2020 at 08:36:48AM +0900, Punit Agrawal wrote:
>> To me it suggests, that there are likely more systems from the family
>> that show the characteristic described below.
>
> Until we find a *single* system with a broken BIOS which has those
> objects kaputt and then this heuristic would need an exception.
>
> VS the clear statement from AMD that from zen3 onwards, all BIOS will be
> tested. I hope they boot Linux at least before they ship.
IIUC, this suggests that Linux booting on anything prior to Zen3 is down
to pure luck - I hope that wasn't the case.
>> In all these systems, the override causes this topology information to
>> be ignored - treating each core to be a separate domain. The proposed
>> patch removes the override so that _PSD is taken into account.
>
> You're still not answering my question: what does the coupling of the
> SMT threads bring on those systems? Power savings? Perf improvement?
> Anything palpable or measurable?
At the moment acpi thermals is bust on this and other affected AMD
system I have access to. That'll need fixing before any sensible
measurements can be run.
Tbh, I didn't quite expect the patch to the PSD exclusion list to be so
controversial - especially when a similar change for zen3 had recently
been merged. If you're really not keen on the change, I will carry it
locally for the time being and revisit once the other issues have been
resolved.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-12-14 13:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-25 14:48 [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add processor to the ignore PSD override list Punit Agrawal
2020-11-25 14:48 ` [RFC PATCH 1/4] cpufreq: acpi-cpufreq: Re-factor overriding ACPI PSD Punit Agrawal
2020-12-07 19:29 ` Wei Huang
2020-12-08 23:31 ` Punit Agrawal
2020-11-25 14:48 ` [RFC PATCH 2/4] cpufreq: acpi-cpufreq: Add processor to the ignore PSD override list Punit Agrawal
2020-12-07 20:20 ` Wei Huang
2020-12-07 20:26 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-12-07 22:07 ` Wei Huang
2020-12-07 22:30 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-12-08 3:44 ` Wei Huang
2020-12-08 23:21 ` Punit Agrawal
2020-12-08 23:32 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-12-11 23:36 ` Punit Agrawal
2020-12-14 12:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-12-14 13:27 ` Punit Agrawal [this message]
2020-12-14 14:25 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-12-17 13:27 ` Punit Agrawal
2020-11-25 14:48 ` [RFC PATCH 3/4] x86/cpu: amd: Define processor families Punit Agrawal
2020-11-30 14:00 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-12-02 14:13 ` Punit Agrawal
2020-12-02 16:57 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-11-25 14:48 ` [RFC PATCH 4/4] cpufreq: acpi-cpufreq: Use identifiers for AMD processor family Punit Agrawal
2020-11-30 14:02 ` Borislav Petkov
2020-12-02 14:30 ` Punit Agrawal
2020-12-04 22:44 ` [RFC PATCH 0/4] Add processor to the ignore PSD override list Punit Agrawal
2020-12-07 13:55 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2020-12-08 23:25 ` Punit Agrawal
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