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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	LSM List <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] fs: detect that the i_rwsem has already been taken exclusively
Date: Sun, 01 Oct 2017 17:06:16 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87shf2jzfr.fsf@xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFx726wT4VprN-sHm6s8Q_PV_VjhTBC4goEbMcerYU1Tig@mail.gmail.com> (Linus Torvalds's message of "Sat, 30 Sep 2017 18:56:59 -0700")

Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> writes:

> On Sep 30, 2017 18:33, "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com> wrote:.
>
>  That would require a task_work or another kind of work callback so that
>  the writes of the xattr are not synchronous with the vfs callback
>  correct?
>
> No, why?
>
> You should just invalidate the IMA on xattr write or other operations that make the measurement invalid. You only need the inner
> lock.
>
> Why are you guys making up all these things just to make it complicated?

I am not trying to make things complicated I am just trying to
understand the conversation.

Unless I misread something it was being pointed out there are some vfs
operations today on which ima writes an ima xattr as a side effect.  And
those operations hold the i_sem.  So perhaps I am misunderstanding
things or writing the ima xattr needs to happen at some point.  Which
implies something like queued work.

But perhaps I a misunderstanding the conversation and ima.  I frequenly
misunderstand ima.

Eric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-10-01 22:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-28 12:39 [RFC PATCH 0/3] define new read_iter file operation rwf flag Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 12:39 ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] fs: define new read_iter " Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 13:54   ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-09-28 14:33     ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 15:51     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-28 12:39 ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] integrity: use call_read_iter to calculate the file hash Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 12:39 ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] fs: detect that the i_rwsem has already been taken exclusively Mimi Zohar
2017-09-28 22:02   ` Dave Chinner
2017-09-28 23:39     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-29  0:12       ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-29  0:33         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-09-29  1:53           ` Mimi Zohar
2017-09-29  3:26             ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-01  1:33               ` Eric W. Biederman
     [not found]                 ` <CA+55aFx726wT4VprN-sHm6s8Q_PV_VjhTBC4goEbMcerYU1Tig@mail.gmail.com>
2017-10-01 12:08                   ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-01 18:41                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-01 22:34                       ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-01 23:15                         ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-02  3:54                           ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-01 23:42                         ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02  3:25                           ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-10-02 12:25                             ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02  4:35                           ` Dave Chinner
2017-10-02 12:09                             ` Mimi Zohar
2017-10-02 12:43                               ` Jeff Layton
2017-10-01 22:06                   ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2017-10-01 22:20                     ` Linus Torvalds
2017-10-01 23:54                       ` Mimi Zohar

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