From: Nicolai Stange <nicstange@gmail.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: Nicolai Stange <nicstange@gmail.com>,
John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC v7 00/23] adapt clockevents frequencies to mono clock
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 00:39:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87shsrlfte.fsf@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1609222335070.5640@nanos> (Thomas Gleixner's message of "Thu, 22 Sep 2016 23:39:00 +0200 (CEST)")
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> writes:
> On Wed, 21 Sep 2016, Nicolai Stange wrote:
>> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> writes:
>>
>> > On Wed, 21 Sep 2016, Nicolai Stange wrote:
>> >> Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> writes:
>> >> > Have you ever measured the overhead of the extra work which has to be done
>> >> > in clockevents_adjust_all_freqs() ?
>> >>
>> >> Not exactly, I had a look at its invocation frequency which seems to
>> >> decay exponentially with uptime, presumably because the NTP error
>> >> approaches zero.
>> >>
>> >> However, I've just gathered a function_graph ftrace on my Intel
>> >> i7-4800MQ (Haswell, 8HTs):
>> >>
>> >> # TIME CPU DURATION FUNCTION CALLS
>> >> # | | | | | | | |
>> >> 85.287027 | 0) 0.899 us | clockevents_adjust_all_freqs();
>> >> 85.288026 | 0) 0.759 us | clockevents_adjust_all_freqs();
>> >> 85.289026 | 0) 0.735 us | clockevents_adjust_all_freqs();
>> >> 85.290026 | 0) 0.671 us | clockevents_adjust_all_freqs();
>> >> 149.503656 | 2) 2.477 us | clockevents_adjust_all_freqs();
>> >
>> > That's not that bad. Though I'd like to see numbers for ARM (especially the
>> > less powerful SoCs) as well.
>>
>> On a Raspberry Pi 2B (bcm2836, ARMv7) with CONFIG_SMP=y, the mean over
>> ~5300 samples is 5.14+/-1.04us with a max of 11.15us.
>
> So why is the variance that high?
I think this is because the histogram has got two peaks, c.f. [1]
Also, the 11us maximum is not isolated but a flat tail is reaching to
this point which I admittedly can't explain.
> You have an outlier on that intel as well which might be caused by
> NMI, but it might also be a systematic issue depending on the input
> parameters.
AFACIT, the "algorithmic" runtime should be constant per CED, so it
should not be dependent on any input parameters.
> 11 us on that ARM worries me.
I'll try to do some more tracing tomorrow in order to get the reason for
that histogram's long tail. But I have to admit that I don't really know
what to look for except for NMIs. Any hints?
What might be remarkable in this context is that the dataset's min is
at 2.24us. Perhaps I'm actually seeing the distribution of the
clockevents_lock acquisition?
Thanks,
Nicolai
[1] https://nicst.de/cev-freqadjust/adjust_all_freqs-function_graph_hist.png
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-16 20:08 [RFC v7 00/23] adapt clockevents frequencies to mono clock Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:08 ` [RFC v7 01/23] clocksource: sh_cmt: compute rate before registration again Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:08 ` [RFC v7 02/23] clocksource: sh_tmu: " Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:08 ` [RFC v7 03/23] clocksource: em_sti: split clock prepare and enable steps Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:08 ` [RFC v7 04/23] clocksource: em_sti: compute rate before registration Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:08 ` [RFC v7 05/23] clocksource: h8300_timer8: don't reset rate in ->set_state_oneshot() Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:08 ` [RFC v7 06/23] clockevents: make clockevents_config() static Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:08 ` [RFC v7 07/23] many clockevent drivers: set ->min_delta_ticks and ->max_delta_ticks Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:08 ` [RFC v7 08/23] arch/s390/kernel/time: " Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:08 ` [RFC v7 09/23] arch/x86/platform/uv/uv_time: " Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:08 ` [RFC v7 10/23] arch/tile/kernel/time: " Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:08 ` [RFC v7 11/23] clockevents: always initialize ->min_delta_ns and ->max_delta_ns Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:11 ` [RFC v7 12/23] many clockevent drivers: don't set " Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:11 ` [RFC v7 13/23] clockevents: introduce CLOCK_EVT_FEAT_NO_ADJUST flag Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:11 ` [RFC v7 14/23] clockevents: decouple ->max_delta_ns from ->max_delta_ticks Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:11 ` [RFC v7 15/23] clockevents: do comparison of delta against minimum in terms of cycles Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:11 ` [RFC v7 16/23] clockevents: clockevents_program_min_delta(): don't set ->next_event Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:11 ` [RFC v7 17/23] clockevents: use ->min_delta_ticks_adjusted to program minimum delta Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:11 ` [RFC v7 18/23] clockevents: min delta increment: calculate min_delta_ns from ticks Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:12 ` [RFC v7 19/23] timer_list: print_tickdevice(): calculate ->min_delta_ns dynamically Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:12 ` [RFC v7 20/23] clockevents: purge ->min_delta_ns Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:12 ` [RFC v7 21/23] clockevents: initial support for mono to raw time conversion Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:12 ` [RFC v7 22/23] clockevents: make setting of ->mult and ->mult_adjusted atomic Nicolai Stange
2016-09-16 20:27 ` [RFC v7 23/23] timekeeping: inform clockevents about freq adjustments Nicolai Stange
2016-09-20 20:54 ` [RFC v7 00/23] adapt clockevents frequencies to mono clock Thomas Gleixner
2016-09-20 23:08 ` Nicolai Stange
2016-09-20 23:36 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-09-21 14:06 ` Nicolai Stange
2016-09-22 21:39 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-09-22 22:39 ` Nicolai Stange [this message]
2016-09-26 10:15 ` Nicolai Stange
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