From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1751922AbcFVGwA (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Jun 2016 02:52:00 -0400 Received: from mga09.intel.com ([134.134.136.24]:60965 "EHLO mga09.intel.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751822AbcFVGv6 (ORCPT ); Wed, 22 Jun 2016 02:51:58 -0400 X-ExtLoop1: 1 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.26,508,1459839600"; d="asc'?scan'208";a="723220446" From: Felipe Balbi To: Peter Chen , yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com Cc: Roger Quadros , peter.chen@freescale.com, yoshihiro.shimoda.uh@renesas.com, tony@atomide.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com, mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com, Joao.Pinto@synopsys.com, sergei.shtylyov@cogentembedded.com, jun.li@freescale.com, grygorii.strashko@ti.com, robh@kernel.org, nsekhar@ti.com, b-liu@ti.com, joe@perches.com, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 08/14] usb: otg: add OTG/dual-role core In-Reply-To: <20160622033356.GB21361@shlinux2> References: <5767C1B9.2060805@ti.com> <878ty0qd7q.fsf@linux.intel.com> <20160621063936.GB5108@shlinux2> <87d1nbovp7.fsf@linux.intel.com> <20160621080209.GC5108@shlinux2> <87mvmfneeq.fsf@linux.intel.com> <20160621091437.GE5108@shlinux2> <87fus6n2iz.fsf@linux.intel.com> <20160621131205.GG5108@shlinux2> <874m8mmwdo.fsf@linux.intel.com> <20160622033356.GB21361@shlinux2> User-Agent: Notmuch/0.22+51~gcc1a6d2 (http://notmuchmail.org) Emacs/25.0.93.2 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2016 09:51:19 +0300 Message-ID: <87shw5lnrs.fsf@linux.intel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="=-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Peter Chen writes: >> >> >> > So, unless we use OTG FSM defined in OTG spec, we should not men= tion >> >> >> > "OTG" in Linux, right? >> >> >>=20 >> >> >> to avoid confusion with the terminology, yes. With that settled, l= et's >> >> >> figure out how you can deliver what your marketting guys are askin= g of >> >> >> you. >> >> >>=20 >> >> > >> >> > Since nxp SoC claims they are OTG compliance, we need to pass usb.o= rg >> >> > test. The internal bsp has passed PET test, and formal compliance t= est >> >> > is on the way (should pass too).=20 >> >> > >> >> > The dual-role and OTG compliance use the same zImage, but different >> >> > dtb. >> >>=20 >> >> okay, that's good to know. Now, the question really is: considering we >> >> only have one user for this generic OTG FSM layer, do we really need = to >> >> make it generic at all? I mean, just look at how invasive a change th= at >> >> is. >> > >> > If the chipidea is the only user for this roger's framework, I don't >> > think it is necessary. In fact, Roger introduces this framework, and >> > the first user is dwc3, we think it can be used for others. Let's >>=20 >> Right, we need to look at the history of dwc3 to figure out why the >> conclusion that dwc3 needs this was made. >>=20 >> Roger started working on this framework when Power on Reset section of >> databook had some details which weren't always clear and, for safety, we >> always had reset asserted for a really long time. It was so long (about >> 400 ms) that resetting dwc3 for each role swap was just too much. >>=20 >> Coupled with that, the OTG chapter wasn't very clear either on >> expections from Host and Peripheral side initialization in OTG/DRD >> systems. >>=20 >> More recent version of dwc3 databook have a much better description of >> how and which reset bits _must_ be asserted and which shouldn't be >> touched unless it's for debugging purposes. When I implemented that, our >> ->probe() went from 400ms down to about 50us. >>=20 >> Coupled with that, the OTG chapter also became a lot clearer to the >> point that it states you just don't initialize anything other than the >> OTG block, and just wait for OTG interrupt to do whatever it is you need >> to do. >>=20 >> This meant that we could actually afford to do full reinitialization of >> dwc3 on role swap (it's now only 50us anyway) and we knew how to swap >> roles properly. >>=20 >> (The reason for needing soft-reset during role swap is kinda long. But >> in summary dwc3 shadows register writes to both host and peripheral >> sides) >>=20 >> > just discuss if it is necessary for dual-role switch. >>=20 >> fair. However, if we have a single user we don't have a Generic >> layer. There's not enough variance to come up with truly generic >> architecture for this. >>=20 >> --=20 > > I have put some points in my last reply [1], I summery it here to > see if a generic framework is deserved or not? > > 1. If there are some parts we can use during the role switch > - The common start/stop host and peripheral operation > eg, when switch from host to peripheral, all drivers can use > usb_remove_hcd to finish it. a UDC such as dwc3 already implements start/stop for peripheral and host. Why would go through and indirection layer that just comes back to us? (well, dwc3's host side, start/stop translates to adding/removing xhci-plat's device) > - A common workqueue to handle vbus and id event I already have a threaded IRQ handler. Why do I need a workqueue? > - sysfs for role switch A generic sysfs is desirable, but I really don't know where to put it. Maybe it's enough to go down the hwmon route and just have an agreement of filename and contents to be written to. =2D-=20 balbi --=-=-= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJXajVnAAoJEIaOsuA1yqREy7UP/0y2QrhmU9TfYrm9KuLrIFa/ 7crL9lnZTL0ZT+TxISFwiL21E9vHcorqtkqmrPjKr+5GQVrLnl1lR3llciPZIDI6 c/+7bU8oIPfO1+zcUVhOISalDYj/lXMp8VUOcUcaEZuM5NPjL6kzYM7MrvV91A6N jfb+G2YjWyTic/NyiFl5BDutwV9OZPjCwQ0CpT6X/1fjlDQ3dnldGnmi0kFYelrW VwAl0LicDtEoAOBCi3RB1GctF0S8adktw87hWEVBsQwCkfPfL/vHDf6CAhZyJAep 3dTNrpxTwHTDPRASXFkl5l+9ArhyzWfqmPFgU34vXJ6bvZVZIo+WHOCc2peVte2D 5WdOCK7u6APr0eDmHsr2NqVdtpLseP1RXu1CeOULPK08dTbRUSP2lTVSZGSYZRbT 9TuvZHe1bUcthm8DpOu47JVFq5eAXzU9E4nK/ObQlkCBTnuzhKaT8NfD57QWGr4F ZA5IYoCrsdcc4KlSb763QCYeNFuWFPpimGa4o/wOoBMbgFqIqa1BNXrsZuvghxkP xTbtPOqmu5quiFDLOhWj7ZXC4ISQ/rJEsOYN50pMCkIqM/IIcYyjwcssIx3OU4qY 1DnxRcSAgX8d1ecH/BIghvm3rE+30F8NxZAxWdhKHhYIyynmfsh7GaYfKNWNxLi9 LvUQNmpw+Nka0urWukUJ =TYCp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-=-=--