Re: RSDL for 2.6.21-rc3- 0.29

Gene Heskett
2007-03-12T10:05:06Z

On Monday 12 March 2007, Gene Heskett wrote:
>On Monday 12 March 2007, Con Kolivas wrote:
>>Hi Gene.
>>
>>On Monday 12 March 2007 16:38, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> I hate to say it Con, but this one seems to have broken the
>>> amanda-tar symbiosis.
>>>
>>> I haven't tried a plain 21-rc3, so the problem may exist there, and
>>> in fact it did for 21-rc1, but I don't recall if it was true for
>>> -rc2. But I will have a plain 21-rc3 running by tomorrow nights
>>> amanda run to test.
>>>
>>> What happens is that when amanda tells tar to do a level 1 or 2, tar
>>> still thinks its doing a level 0. The net result is that the tape is
>>> filled completely and amanda does an EOT exit in about 10 of my 42
>>> dle's. This is tar-1.15-1 for fedora core 6.
>>
>>I'm sorry but I have to say I have no idea what any of this means. I
>> gather you're making an association between some application
>> combination failing and RSDL cpu scheduler. Unfortunately the details
>> of what the problem is, or how the cpu scheduler is responsible,
>> escape me :(
>
>I have another backup running right now, after building a plain
>2.6.21-rc3, and rebooting just now for the test. I don't think its the
>scheduler itself, but is something post 2.6.20 that is messing with tars
>mind and making it think the files it just read to do the estimate
> phase, are all new, so even a level 2 is in effect a level 0. I'll
> have an answer in about an hour, but its also 2:36am here and I'm
> headed for the rack to get some zzz's. So I'll report in the morning
> as to whether or not this backup ran as it was supposed to. I have a
> feeling its not going to though.

I can confirm that a plain 21-rc3 still suffers from this problem. This
run of amanda terminated after 13 of the 32 dle's after writing just
short of 12GB to the vtape. 8 were level 0's, 5 were level 1's, all were
gzipped, achieving a compression ratio of 40% of original size. There is
about 45GB of data here to backup, on a 5 day dumpcycle.

If, and I have previously, I revert to a 2.6.20-ck1 patching, this does
not occur. So my contention is that someplace in this recent progression
from 2.6.20 to 2.6.21-rc3, there is a patch which acts to change how
c-time is being reported to tar. Or there is a spillage into c-times
when tar does its estimate scans where the output goes to /dev/null.
Or possibly even this version of tar is doing it differently. I just
looked up how to get the c-times out of ls, and they, as far as ls is
concerned, look sane. But tars actions while running a 2.6.21-rcX kernel
certainly are not. I do have a plain -rc2 I can try, so that will be the
next test. If that also fails in this manner, I'll build a later
2.6.20-2 or whatever to verify that it doesn't so suffer.

I love your patches Con, but I'll leave them out of this next testing. No
use pointing fingers at good code.

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