From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: John <therealgraysky@proton.me>
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Subject: Re: [REGRESSION] Raspberry Pi 5 (BCM2712) hangs at boot since d87773de9efe (arm_arch_timer: default to EL2 virtual timer under VHE)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2026 09:14:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tsq75kjb.wl-maz@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <vUQ4-RaOlZaTlasD0DLGmWOWcVLQXYYK_yid3Tsqeyi53CPsTCpOvXSGZiz0RAyxsxCzWTXOe4zK8rzOLdtDXiVu-xBjp2VkPz9JRj9QUWA=@proton.me>
On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 16:20:13 +0100,
John <therealgraysky@proton.me> wrote:
>
> On Monday, July 6th, 2026 at 10:40 AM, Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 06 Jul 2026 15:13:27 +0100,
> > John <therealgraysky@proton.me> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since commit d87773de9efe ("clocksource/drivers/arm_arch_timer: Default to EL2 virtual timer when running VHE"), the Raspberry Pi 5 (BCM2712, arm64) hangs during boot on v7.2-rc1 and later. Reverting that commit on top of v7.2-rc2 boots reliably. Found by bisection.
> > >
> > > Environment: - Raspberry Pi 5 Model B, arm64, device-tree boot (no ACPI) - CPUs start at EL2 with VHE - Mainline v7.2-rc1 and v7.2-rc2
> > >
> > > Symptom: - Silent hang early in driver probe; no panic or oops. Boot banner shows
> > > "arch_timer: cp15 timer running at 54.00MHz (hyp-virt)". The first blocking, timer-backed wait during probe never returns because the EL2 virtual timer's interrupt is not delivered on this SoC, so clockevents are dead. The softlockup/hung-task detectors can't fire either, since they depend on the same dead timer.
> > >
> >
> > Is that a guess? Or do you know something we don't? Or worse, is this
> > report entirely AI generated?
>
> Hi Marc - I'm not a programmer, but I can use git. I performed the bisect, and verification steps by hand. I am convinced the bisect is correct based on the restoration of booting.
>
> My RPi5B freezes when booting into d87773de9e and reverting it gives a clean boot.
>
> I used Opus to analyze the result of the bisect in concert with the logs I captured from the serial console. I also used it to summarize everything into a concise bug report. I can't vouch for the accuracy of the interpretation, but I can confirm the problematic commit and restoration of function.
>
>
> > Again, how do you know it isn't functional? Could it be, for example,
> > that the firmware has not configured the interrupt correctly?
>
> I cannot. In the future, when I use these tools, I will scope the ask to just factual content, rather than allowing them to speculate.
>
> > A proposed fix has been posted at [1]. Until we hear from the
> > implementer about the state of the HW, it is difficult to do anything.
> >
> > M.
> >
> > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/878q898ulx.wl-maz@kernel.org/
>
> Thank you for linking that! I applied it on top of 7.2-rc2 (with d87773de9efe intact) and got a clean boot.
FWIW, and in the absence of any feedback from the SoC manufacturer,
I've posted this patch[2]. There isn't much else I can do for this
stuff.
M.
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20260710080958.491620-1-maz@kernel.org/
--
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Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-07-06 14:13 [REGRESSION] Raspberry Pi 5 (BCM2712) hangs at boot since d87773de9efe (arm_arch_timer: default to EL2 virtual timer under VHE) John
2026-07-06 14:40 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-07-06 15:20 ` John
2026-07-06 15:31 ` Marc Zyngier
2026-07-10 8:14 ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
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