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From: Luis Henriques <luis@igalia.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
Cc: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>,
	 "Darrick J. Wong" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	 Bernd Schubert <bschubert@ddn.com>,  Kevin Chen <kchen@ddn.com>,
	 Horst Birthelmer <hbirthelmer@ddn.com>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 Matt Harvey <mharvey@jumptrading.com>,
	 kernel-dev@igalia.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] fuse: implementation of the FUSE_LOOKUP_HANDLE operation
Date: Fri, 09 Jan 2026 14:45:21 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tswuq1z2.fsf@wotan.olymp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegst6oha7-M+8v9cYpk7MR-9k_PZofJ3uzG39DnVoVXMkA@mail.gmail.com> (Miklos Szeredi's message of "Fri, 9 Jan 2026 13:38:29 +0100")

On Fri, Jan 09 2026, Miklos Szeredi wrote:

> On Fri, 9 Jan 2026 at 12:57, Luis Henriques <luis@igalia.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been trying to wrap my head around all the suggested changes, and
>> experimenting with a few options.  Since there are some major things that
>> need to be modified, I'd like to confirm that I got them right:
>>
>> 1. In the old FUSE_LOOKUP, the args->in_args[0] will continue to use the
>>    struct fuse_entry_out, which won't be changed and will continue to have
>>    a static size.
>
> Yes.
>
>> 2. FUSE_LOOKUP_HANDLE will add a new out_arg, which will be dynamically
>>    allocated (using your suggestion: 'args->out_var_alloc').  This will be
>>    a new struct fuse_entry_handle_out, similar to fuse_entry_out, but
>>    replacing the struct fuse_attr by a struct fuse_statx, and adding the
>>    file handle struct.
>
> Another idea: let's simplify the interface by removing the attributes
> from the lookup reply entirely.  To get back the previous
> functionality, compound requests can be used: LOOKUP_HANDLE + STATX.

OK, interesting idea.  So, in that case we would have:

struct fuse_entry_handle_out {
	uint64_t nodeid;
	uint64_t generation;
	uint64_t entry_valid;
	struct fuse_file_handle fh;
}

I'll then need to have a look at the compound requests closely. (I had
previously skimmed through the patches that add open+getattr but didn't
gone too deep into it.)

>> 3. FUSE_LOOKUP_HANDLE will use the args->in_args[0] as an extension header
>
> No, extensions go after the regular request data: headers, payload,
> extension(s).
>
> We could think about changing that for uring, where it would make
> sense to put the extensions after the regular headers, but currently
> it doesn't work that way and goes into the payload section.
>
> In any case LOOKUP_HANDLE should follow the existing practice.

Hmm... I _think_ I had it right in my head, but totally messed up my text.
English is hard.  What I meant was that args->ext_idx would be set to the
in_args[] index that would describe the extension (for the lookup
operation, that would be '3', not '0' as I mentioned above).

And then the extension header would be created similarly to what's being
done for FUSE_EXT_GROUPS, using the same helper extend_arg().  That way, I
think we would have: headers - payload - extensions.

>>    (FUSE_EXT_HANDLE).  Note that other operations (e.g. those in function
>>    create_new_entry()) will actually need to *add* an extra extension
>>    header, as extension headers are already being used there.
>
> Right.
>
>>    This extension header will use the new struct fuse_entry_handle_out.
>
> Why _out?
>
> It should just be a struct fuse_ext_header followed by a struct
> fuse_file_handle.

Yes, of course.  My English was totally messed-up.  And I meant
'fuse_file_handle', not 'fuse_entry_handle_out'.

Cheer,
-- 
Luís

  reply	other threads:[~2026-01-09 14:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-12 18:12 [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] fuse: LOOKUP_HANDLE operation Luis Henriques
2025-12-12 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] fuse: store index of the variable length argument Luis Henriques
2025-12-12 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/6] fuse: move fuse_entry_out structs out of the stack Luis Henriques
2025-12-15 14:03   ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-16 10:30     ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-12 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/6] fuse: initial infrastructure for FUSE_LOOKUP_HANDLE support Luis Henriques
2025-12-15 13:36   ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-15 17:06     ` Amir Goldstein
2025-12-15 17:11       ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-15 18:09         ` Amir Goldstein
2025-12-15 18:23           ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-16 10:36           ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 10:19   ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-12-16 11:33     ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 11:46       ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-12-16 12:02         ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-12 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] fuse: implementation of the FUSE_LOOKUP_HANDLE operation Luis Henriques
2025-12-15 17:39   ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-16 11:48     ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-17 10:18       ` Amir Goldstein
2025-12-17 14:45         ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-17 15:02       ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-17 16:53         ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16  8:49   ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-16  8:54     ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-17  0:32       ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-17  1:00         ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-12-17  2:48           ` Joanne Koong
2025-12-17  9:38             ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-17 10:08               ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-12-17 16:17                 ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 10:39   ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-12-16 10:51     ` Amir Goldstein
2025-12-16 11:07       ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-01-09 11:57     ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-09 12:38       ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-01-09 14:45         ` Luis Henriques [this message]
2026-01-09 14:56           ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-09 17:07             ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-12  7:43               ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-09 15:20           ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-01-09 15:03         ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-09 15:37           ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-01-09 15:56             ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-09 16:28               ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-01-09 17:16                 ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-09 18:29               ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-09 19:01                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2026-01-09 19:28                   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-01-09 19:12                 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-09 19:55                   ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-21 17:56                     ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-21 18:16                       ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-21 18:28                         ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-21 18:36                           ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-21 18:49                             ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-21 19:00                               ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-21 19:03                                 ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-21 19:12                                   ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-22  9:52                                     ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-22 10:20                                       ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-22 10:35                                         ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-22 10:53                                         ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-22 10:59                                           ` Horst Birthelmer
2026-01-22 11:25                                             ` Luis Henriques
2026-01-22 11:32                                               ` Bernd Schubert
2026-01-22 12:34                                               ` Horst Birthelmer
2025-12-12 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] fuse: factor out NFS export related code Luis Henriques
2025-12-14 15:13   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-12-15 12:05     ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-12 18:12 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] fuse: implementation of export_operations with FUSE_LOOKUP_HANDLE Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 10:58   ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-12-16 17:06     ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 20:12       ` Horst Birthelmer
2025-12-17 17:02         ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-17 18:02           ` Horst Birthelmer
2025-12-16 11:01   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-12-16 17:26     ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-14 17:02 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] fuse: LOOKUP_HANDLE operation Askar Safin
2025-12-15 12:08   ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16  0:33     ` Askar Safin
2025-12-16 17:36       ` Luis Henriques
2025-12-16 18:49       ` Bernd Schubert
2025-12-16 22:45         ` Askar Safin
2025-12-25  7:42         ` Askar Safin
2026-01-04 22:38         ` Askar Safin

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