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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Miguel Ojeda" <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Masahiro Yamada" <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"Nathan Chancellor" <nathan@kernel.org>,
	"Nicolas Schier" <nicolas@fjasle.eu>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Adam Bratschi-Kaye" <ark.email@gmail.com>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 4/4] rust: add parameter support to the `module!` macro
Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2025 13:45:20 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tta9bhjz.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANiq72nBpVy911cVhNFM6teQ0EaE-xs0SB2Qx95O4=nKBdRDuQ@mail.gmail.com> (Miguel Ojeda's message of "Fri, 13 Dec 2024 18:14:37 +0100")

"Miguel Ojeda" <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com> writes:

> On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 2:17 PM Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org> wrote:
>>
>> scheduled for removal. Interior mutability via `SyncUnsafeCell` provides
>> the same functionality and it is my understanding that this feature is
>> on track to be stabilized.
>
> I am not sure about the last bit, but even if it is on track, we do
> not want to start using new language features or APIs that could
> potentially change.
>
> And even if it is a feature that we are sure will not change, we
> should still let upstream Rust know before using it, since we are
> actively discussing with them the remaining unstable items that the
> kernel needs and they are putting the kernel in their roadmap.
>
> So I suggest we mention it next week in the Rust/Rust for Linux meeting.

I don't think we ever discussed this?

I was going to put this in the commit trailer for v4:

---
Version 3 of this patch enabled the unstable feature `sync_unsafe_cell` [1] to
avoid `static mut` variables as suggested by Trevor Tross and Benno Lossin [2].

As we are moving closer to a new edition, it is now clear that `static mut` is
not being deprecated in the 2024 edition as first anticipated [3].

Still, `SyncUnsafeCell` allows us to use safe code when referring to the
parameter value:

```
{param_name}.as_mut_ptr().cast()
```

rather than unsafe code:

```
unsafe { addr_of_mut!(__{name}_{param_name}_value) }.cast()
```

Thus, this version (4) keeps the feature enabled.

[1] https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/95439
[2] https://lore.kernel.org/all/CALNs47sqt==o+hM5M1b0vTayKH177naybg_KurcirXszYAa22A@mail.gmail.com/
[3] https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/53639#issuecomment-2434023115
---

What do you think?

>
>> Not sure. `val` being null not supposed to happen in the current
>> configuration. It should be an unreachable state. So BUG is the right thing?
>
> Since you can easily return an error in this situation, I would say
> ideally a `WARN_ON_ONCE` + returning an error would be the best
> option, and covers you in case the rest changes and someone forgets to
> update this.

Returning an error and `pr_warn!` is doable. As far as I can tell, we do
not have `WARN_ON_ONCE` yet?

>
>> Not in the current configuration. The parameters can only be declared
>> "read only". It should be impossible for anyone to call this function.
>
> What I meant is, can you avoid writing the function to begin with, by
> leaving a null function pointer in the `kernel_param_ops` struct, i.e.
> `None`?
>

It turns out we can!


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg



  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-08 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2024-12-13 11:30 ` [PATCH v3 0/4] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] rust: str: implement `PartialEq` for `BStr` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 12:49     ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] rust: str: implement `strip_prefix` " Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 3/4] rust: str: add radix prefixed integer parsing functions Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:30   ` [PATCH v3 4/4] rust: add parameter support to the `module!` macro Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:46     ` Greg KH
2024-12-13 12:42       ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 12:54     ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-13 13:17       ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 17:14         ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-08 12:45           ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-01-08 13:17             ` Alice Ryhl
2025-01-08 13:43             ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-01-08 14:20               ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 11:43   ` [PATCH v3 0/4] rust: extend `module!` macro with integer parameter support Greg KH
2024-12-13 12:24     ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 12:48       ` Alice Ryhl
2024-12-13 12:57         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-17 14:09           ` Simona Vetter
2024-12-13 14:23       ` Greg KH
2024-12-13 15:38         ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 16:05           ` Greg KH
2024-12-16  9:51             ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 12:14               ` Greg KH
2024-12-16 12:23                 ` Greg KH
2024-12-16 13:02                   ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 13:02                 ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-16 14:43                   ` Jens Axboe
2024-12-16 15:03                     ` Greg KH
2024-12-16 15:08                       ` Jens Axboe
2024-12-16 15:39                         ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-16 15:48                           ` Miguel Ojeda
2024-12-18  2:16                             ` Josh Triplett
2024-12-13 12:28   ` Andreas Hindborg
2024-12-13 19:41     ` Luis Chamberlain

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