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From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@kernel.org, juri.lelli@redhat.com,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de,
	vschneid@redhat.com, frederic@kernel.org, efault@gmx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] rcu: limit PREEMPT_RCU configurations
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 10:42:06 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ttdj97o1.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241010081032.GA17263@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>


Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> writes:

> On Thu, Oct 10, 2024 at 08:32:07AM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
>> On 2024-10-09 11:24:09 [-0700], Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>> > In order to support systems that currently run CONFIG_PREEMPT=n that
>> …
>> > Or am I once again missing your point?
>>
>> The change is:
>> | config PREEMPT_RCU
>> |        bool
>> |-       default y if PREEMPTION
>> |+       default y if (PREEMPT || PREEMPT_RT || PREEMPT_DYNAMIC)
>>
>> Now:
>> - CONFIG_PREEMPT select PREEMPT_BUILD
>> - PREEMPT_RT select CONFIG_PREEMPTION
>> - PREEMPT_DYNAMIC selects PREEMPT_BUILD
>>
>> and PREEMPT_BUILD select CONFIG_PREEMPTION
>>
>> so in the end, this change is a nop, right?
>
> PREEMPT_RT selects PREEMPTION *and* has one of PREEMPT / PREEMPT_LAZY /
> PREEMPT_DYNAMIC, all of which in turn select PREEMPT_BUILD, which
> selects PREEMPTION.
>
> (arguably we can remove the select PREEMPTION from PREEMPT_RT)
>
> The proposed change is not a nop because the config: PREEMPT_LAZY=y
> PREEMPT_DYNAMIC=n will result in false, while it will have PREEMPTION.
>
> That said, I really do not agree with the change, it makes the condition
> complicated for no reason.

Isn't the behaviour identical to how it behaves when you choose
PREEMPT_NONE/VOLUNTARY and enable/disable PREEMPT_DYNAMIC?

This option is just choosing the RCU model suited for the kinds of
preemption supported.

--
ankur

  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-10-10 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-10-09 16:54 [PATCH 0/7] Lazy preemption bits Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 1/7] sched: warn for high latency with TIF_NEED_RESCHED_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-10-10  6:37   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 18:19     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-13  9:44   ` kernel test robot
2024-10-13  9:54   ` kernel test robot
2024-10-16  9:36   ` Shrikanth Hegde
2024-10-21 19:21     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-22  5:41       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 2/7] rcu: limit PREEMPT_RCU configurations Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 18:01   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-09 18:24     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-09 20:52       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-09 21:16         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10  7:58           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 14:19             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10  6:32       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10  8:10         ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10  9:13           ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 10:03             ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 10:26               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 10:44                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 14:29                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11  8:18                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-11 13:59                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 14:43                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-11 15:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 11:22                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-15 22:13                               ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-17  8:04                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-17 22:50                                   ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-18 17:43                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-18 19:18                                       ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-18 23:24                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-19  1:07                                           ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-19  4:30                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 23:11                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-17  7:07                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-18 17:38                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-21 11:27                                     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-21 16:48                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-21 19:20                                         ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-22 23:49                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-22 14:09                                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-22 23:54                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-23  6:58                                             ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 17:35             ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-11  7:58               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-15 23:01                 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-10 17:42           ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 3/7] rcu: fix header guard for rcu_all_qs() Ankur Arora
2024-10-10  6:41   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10  8:11     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 14:29       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 4/7] rcu: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPT_COUNT=y Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 19:05   ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-10 14:37     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10 17:59       ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-10  6:50   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 17:56     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-11  7:52       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 5/7] rcu: rename PREEMPT_AUTO to PREEMPT_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 18:02   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-09 18:52     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 6/7] osnoise: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPTION=y Ankur Arora
2024-10-10  6:53   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 14:39     ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10 17:50     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-11  7:36       ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-14 20:14         ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 7/7] powerpc: add support for PREEMPT_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-10-10  7:22   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 18:10     ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-11 18:35       ` Shrikanth Hegde
2024-10-12 22:42         ` Michael Ellerman

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