From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Oswald Buddenhagen <oswald.buddenhagen@gmx.de>
Cc: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
Jeff Chua <jeff.chua.linux@gmail.com>,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>,
ALSA development <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>
Subject: Re: linux-6.4 alsa sound broken
Date: Thu, 04 May 2023 08:15:09 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87ttwsmxle.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZFK9ZSm34Z3hQPF4@ugly>
On Wed, 03 May 2023 22:00:37 +0200,
Oswald Buddenhagen wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 03, 2023 at 09:32:02PM +0200, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> > On 03. 05. 23 18:10, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> >> The dmix uses the silence_size=boundary as a fill-all operation, and
> >> it's a free-wheel mode, so supposedly something was overlooked in your
> >> code refactoring.
> >>
> >> Could you check it and address quickly? I'd like to fix it before
> >> 6.4-rc1 release, so if no fix comes up in a couple of days, I'll have
> >> to revert the change for 6.4-rc1.
> >
> > I would revert this patch.
>
> > It seems that this "do silence right after the playback is finished"
> > mechanism is not handled in the updated code (and I overlooked that,
> > too):
> >
> no, there is nothing wrong with the code _per se_.
>
> what's happening is that the dmix plugin doesn't update the
> application pointer, and somehow gets away with it.
>
> that means that it would have never worked with thresholded silencing
> mode, either, but, well, it uses top-up mode.
Well, the code made just a wrong interpretation for the behavior with
silence_size == boundary. This mode is actually a kind of tailored
operation for dmix.
In the description of alsa-lib snd_pcm_sw_params_set_silence_size(),
you can find it:
/**
* \brief Set silence size inside a software configuration container
* \param pcm PCM handle
* \param params Software configuration container
* \param val Silence size in frames (0 for disabled)
* \return 0 otherwise a negative error code
*
* A portion of playback buffer is overwritten with silence when playback
* underrun is nearer than silence threshold (see
* #snd_pcm_sw_params_set_silence_threshold)
*
* The special case is when silence size value is equal or greater than
* boundary. The unused portion of the ring buffer (initial written samples
* are untouched) is filled with silence at start. Later, only just processed
* sample area is filled with silence. Note: silence_threshold must be set to zero.
*/
So, the "top-up" silencing happens only at start, but not after that.
In the code path of hw_ptr update, it doesn't check the appl_ptr any
longer, but fills the processed area by the hw_ptr update with
silence. That's the intended behavior for use cases of free-wheel
mode without appl_ptr updates like dmix.
Takashi
prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-05-04 6:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-05-01 3:59 linux-6.4 alsa sound broken Jeff Chua
2023-05-01 4:36 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-05-01 6:35 ` Takashi Iwai
2023-05-01 13:16 ` Jeff Chua
2023-05-01 14:52 ` Takashi Iwai
2023-05-01 15:03 ` Jeff Chua
2023-05-03 4:40 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-05-03 5:42 ` Jeff Chua
2023-05-01 13:08 ` Jeff Chua
2023-05-01 7:17 ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-05-01 15:05 ` Jeff Chua
2023-05-03 4:34 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-05-03 4:37 ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-05-03 6:06 ` Takashi Iwai
2023-05-03 12:19 ` Jeff Chua
2023-05-03 13:44 ` Takashi Iwai
2023-05-03 15:06 ` Jeff Chua
2023-05-03 15:47 ` Takashi Iwai
2023-05-03 16:10 ` Takashi Iwai
2023-05-03 19:32 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-05-03 20:00 ` Oswald Buddenhagen
2023-05-03 20:17 ` Jaroslav Kysela
2023-05-04 6:15 ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
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