From: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>,
Darren Hart <dvhart@infradead.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/36] mutex, futex: adjust kernel-doc markups to generate ReST
Date: Mon, 15 May 2017 15:05:49 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87tw4me34y.fsf@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170515114919.bepernrqonybkmmh@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On Mon, 15 May 2017, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 01:29:58PM +0300, Jani Nikula wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 May 2017, Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
>> > The intention is to aid readability. Making comments worse so that some
>> > retarded script can generate better html or whatnot is just that,
>> > retarded.
>> >
>> > Code matters, generated documentation not so much. I'll take a comment
>> > that reads well over one that generates pretty html any day.
>>
>> The deal is that if you start your comments with "/**" they'll be
>> processed with the retarded script to produce pretty html.
>>
>> For the most part the comments that generate pretty html also read well,
>> and we don't expect or want anyone to go overboard with markup. I don't
>> think it's unreasonable to make small concessions to improve generated
>> documentation for people who care about it even if you don't.
>
> No. Such a concession has pure negative value. It opens the door to more
> patches converting this or that comment to be prettier or whatnot. And
> before you know it there's a Markus like idiot spamming you with dozens
> of crap patches to prettify the generated crud.
>
> Not to mention that this would mean having to learn this rest crud in
> order to write these comments.
>
> All things I'm not prepared to do.
>
> I'm all for useful comments, but I see no value _at_all_ in this
> generated nonsense. The only reason I sometimes use the docbook comment
> style is because its fairly uniform and the build bot gets you a warning
> when your function signature no longer matches with the comment. But
> if you make this painful I'll simply stop using them.
I see plenty of value in the generated documentation, but I see zero
return on investment in spending any time trying to convince you about
any of it.
BR,
Jani.
--
Jani Nikula, Intel Open Source Technology Center
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2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 01/36] docs-rst: convert kernel-hacking to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 16:35 ` Markus Heiser
2017-05-13 10:03 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-15 16:50 ` Jonathan Corbet
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 02/36] kernel-hacking: update document Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 03/36] docs-rst: convert kernel-locking to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 16:49 ` Markus Heiser
2017-05-12 16:57 ` Markus Heiser
2017-05-13 9:25 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 04/36] mutex, futex: adjust kernel-doc markups to generate ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 16:41 ` Darren Hart
2017-05-12 21:51 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 22:08 ` Darren Hart
2017-05-12 22:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-12 22:19 ` Darren Hart
2017-05-13 9:42 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-15 7:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-15 9:00 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-15 9:33 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-15 10:29 ` Jani Nikula
2017-05-15 11:49 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-15 12:05 ` Jani Nikula [this message]
2017-05-15 16:40 ` Darren Hart
2017-05-16 10:13 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-15 17:22 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-16 11:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-05-16 11:41 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 05/36] locking.rst: reformat locking table Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 06/36] locking.rst: add captions to two tables Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 07/36] locking.rst: Update some ReST markups Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 08/36] docs-rst: convert kgdb DocBook to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 09/36] kgdb.rst: Adjust ReST markups Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 10/36] conf.py: define a color for important markup on PDF output Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 11/36] docs-rst: conf.py: sort LaTeX documents in alphabetical order Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 12/36] docs-rst: conf.py: remove kernel-documentation from LaTeX Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 13/36] docs-rst: add crypto API book to pdf output Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 14/36] docs-rst: add dev-tools " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 15/36] docs-rst: add sound " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 13:59 ` [PATCH 16/36] docs-rst: add userspace API " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 17/36] docs-rst: convert filesystems book to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 18/36] docs-rst: filesystems: use c domain references where needed Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 19/36] fs: jbd2: make jbd2_journal_start() kernel-doc parseable Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-15 13:06 ` Jan Kara
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 20/36] docs-rst: don't ignore internal functions for jbd2 docs Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 21/36] fs: locks: Fix some troubles at kernel-doc comments Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:02 ` Jeff Layton
2017-05-13 9:14 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-15 14:51 ` J. Bruce Fields
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 22/36] fs: add a blank lines on some " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 23/36] fs: eventfd: fix identation on kernel-doc Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 24/36] fs: jbd2: escape a string with special chars on a kernel-doc Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-15 13:05 ` Jan Kara
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 25/36] docs-rst: convert libata book to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 26/36] libata.rst: add c function and struct cross-references Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-13 6:57 ` kbuild test robot
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 27/36] libata: fix identation on a kernel-doc markup Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 28/36] docs-rst: convert s390-drivers DocBook to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-15 8:09 ` Cornelia Huck
2017-05-16 9:19 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 29/36] docs-rst: convert networking book " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 30/36] net: skbuff.h: properly escape a macro name on kernel-doc Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 31/36] net: fix some identation issues at kernel-doc markups Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 32/36] docs-rst: convert z8530book DocBook to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 33/36] docs-rst: convert scsi " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 34/36] scsi: fix some kernel-doc markups Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 35/36] docs-rst: convert w1 book to ReST Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 14:00 ` [PATCH 36/36] docs-rst: convert rapidio " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
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