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From: OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>
To: Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@gmail.com>
Cc: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	"Steven J. Magnani" <steve@digidescorp.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Namjae Jeon <namjae.jeon@samsung.com>,
	Ravishankar N <ravi.n1@samsung.com>,
	Amit Sahrawat <a.sahrawat@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/5] fat: allocate persistent inode numbers
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:33:02 +0900	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87txv2cog1.fsf@devron.myhome.or.jp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKYAXd-5CQrE=232NKk9pRjzP3q8OBryeLt9mH==f=zrKdjzNg@mail.gmail.com> (Namjae Jeon's message of "Thu, 13 Sep 2012 17:11:54 +0900")

Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@gmail.com> writes:

>> I see. So, client can't solve the ESTALE if inode cache was evicted,
>> right? (without application changes)
>
> There can be situation where we may get not only ESTALE but EIO also.
>
> For example,
> -------------------------------
> fd = open(“foo.txt”);
> while (1) {
>        sleep(1);
>        write(fd..);
> }
> --------------------------------
>
> Here “write” may fail when inode number of “foo.txt” is changed at
> server due to cache eviction under memory pressure.
> When we tried a similar test, we found that “write” is retuning “EIO”
> instead of “ESTALE”
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> #> ./write_test_dbg bbb 1000 0
> FILE : bbb, SIZE : 1048576000 , FSYNC : OFF , RECORD_SIZE = 4096
> 106264 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root 0 0 Jan 1 00:14 bbb
> write failed after 60080128 bytes:, errno = 5: Input/output error
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  As we get EIO instead of ESTALE, it may be difficult to decide when
> "restart from LOOKUP” in such situation.
> Also, as per Bruce opinion, we can not avoid ESTALE from inode number
> change in rebooted server case.
> In reboot case, it is worst as it may attempt to write in a different
> file if NFS handle at NFS client match with inode number of some other
> file at NFS server.

I see.

>> Grepping around... Documentation/sysctl/vm.txt mentions a
>> vfs_cache_pressure parameter.
>> Yeah. And dirty hack will be possible to adjust sb->s_shrink.batch.
> I am worrying if it could lead to OOM condition on embedded
> system(short memory(DRAM) and support 3TB HDD disk of big size.)
>
> Please let me know if any issues or queries.

So, now I think stable inode number may be useful if there are users of
it. And I guess those functionality is no collisions with -mm. And I
suppose we can add two modes for "nfs" option (e.g. nfs=1 and nfs=2).

If nfs=1, works like current -mm without no limited operations.
If nfs=2, try to make stable FH and limit some operations

(option name doesn't matter here.)

Does this work fine?
-- 
OGAWA Hirofumi <hirofumi@mail.parknet.co.jp>

  reply	other threads:[~2012-09-13  8:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-09-04 15:57 [PATCH v2 1/5] fat: allocate persistent inode numbers Namjae Jeon
2012-09-04 16:17 ` Al Viro
2012-09-05 14:08   ` Namjae Jeon
2012-09-05 14:56     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-09-06  6:46       ` Namjae Jeon
2012-09-06 12:19         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-09-06 13:39           ` Namjae Jeon
2012-09-07  7:01             ` Namjae Jeon
2012-09-07 12:15               ` Steven J. Magnani
2012-09-09  9:32                 ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-09-09 11:29                   ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-09-10 12:03                     ` Namjae Jeon
2012-09-10 14:00                       ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-09-11 12:00                         ` Namjae Jeon
2012-09-11 12:31                           ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-09-11 15:13                             ` Namjae Jeon
2012-09-11 15:47                               ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-09-12 14:12                                 ` Namjae Jeon
2012-09-12 14:32                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-09-12 17:03                                     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-09-12 17:11                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-09-12 17:38                                         ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-09-12 17:45                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-09-12 18:49                                             ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-09-13  8:11                                               ` Namjae Jeon
2012-09-13  8:33                                                 ` OGAWA Hirofumi [this message]
2012-09-13 11:20                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-09-13 12:17                                                     ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-09-13 14:24                                                       ` Namjae Jeon
2012-09-13 14:46                                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2012-09-13 15:34                                                           ` OGAWA Hirofumi
2012-09-14  8:51                                                             ` Namjae Jeon
2012-09-10 12:28                   ` Steven J. Magnani

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