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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Michael Jeanson <mjeanson@efficios.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	"Gautham R. Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@intel.com>,
	TCMalloc Team <tcmalloc-eng@google.com>
Subject: Re: [patch 06/19] sched/mmcid: Prevent pointless work in mm_update_cpus_allowed()
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 20:25:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7k8xgbt.ffs@tglx> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251020082250.GF3245006@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Mon, Oct 20 2025 at 10:22, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2025 at 10:32:47PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 17 2025 at 20:19, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> > On Fri, Oct 17, 2025 at 07:58:53PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>> >> Same is true when you offline a CPU come to think of it.
>> >> 
>> >> Same is true if the cpumask is sparse.
>> >> 
>> >> Anyway, just saying, checking against nr_cpu_ids might not be the best
>> >> shortcut here.
>> >
>> > Put another way, nr_cpus_allowed == nr_cpu_ids only work when none of
>> > the masks involved have holes. The moment anything {possible, present,
>> > online} has holes in, it goes sideways.
>> 
>> You're right. I was too narrowly focussed on the normal x86 case, where
>> nr_cpu_ids == num_possible_cpus ....
>> 
>> Let me think about that.
>
> So the obvious idea would be to grow hotplug hooks, such that you can
> do:
>
>   nr_cpus_allowed == num_online_cpus()
>
> But then hotplug will have to iterate all mm's. Doable, but not really
> nice.

Right, but that can be done once the dust settled and if there is
actually a need for it.

Thanks,

        tglx

  reply	other threads:[~2025-10-21 18:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-10-15 17:29 [patch 00/19] sched: Rewrite MM CID management Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 01/19] sched/mmcid: Revert the complex " Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 02/19] sched/mmcid: Use proper data structures Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 03/19] sched/mmcid: Cacheline align MM CID storage Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 04/19] sched: Fixup whitespace damage Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 05/19] sched/mmcid: Move scheduler code out of global header Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 06/19] sched/mmcid: Prevent pointless work in mm_update_cpus_allowed() Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-17 11:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-17 12:49     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-17 17:58       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-17 18:19         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-19 20:32           ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-20  8:22             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-21 18:25               ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 07/19] cpumask: Introduce cpumask_or_weight() Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:41   ` Yury Norov
2025-10-15 18:06     ` Yury Norov
2025-10-21 20:21       ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-21 19:34     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 08/19] sched/mmcid: Use cpumask_or_weight() Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 09/19] sched/mmcid: Convert mm CID mask to a bitmap Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 10/19] signal: Move MMCID exit out of sighand lock Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 11/19] sched/mmcid: Move initialization out of line Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 12/19] sched/mmcid: Provide precomputed maximal value Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 13/19] sched/mmcid: Serialize sched_mm_cid_fork()/exit() with a mutex Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 14/19] sched/mmcid: Introduce per task/CPU ownership infrastrcuture Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 15/19] sched/mmcid: Provide new scheduler CID mechanism Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 16/19] sched/mmcid: Provide CID ownership mode fixup functions Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-20  6:34   ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-20  9:13   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-20  9:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-20  9:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-10-21 18:27     ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 17/19] irqwork: Move data struct to a types header Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:29 ` [patch 18/19] sched/mmcid: Implement deferred mode change Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-15 17:30 ` [patch 19/19] sched/mmcid: Switch over to the new mechanism Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-17  7:09 ` [patch 00/19] sched: Rewrite MM CID management Thomas Gleixner
2025-10-17 11:31 ` Florian Weimer
2025-10-17 12:56   ` Thomas Gleixner

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