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From: Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@kernel.org>
To: "Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>
Cc: rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	"FUJITA Tomonori" <fujita.tomonori@gmail.com>,
	"Frederic Weisbecker" <frederic@kernel.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Anna-Maria Behnsen" <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	"John Stultz" <jstultz@google.com>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/8] rust: hrtimer: Add HrTimer::raw_forward() and forward()
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2025 11:43:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7qn2tgl.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f7d854d557423be6411ccb7c641aa2ab4c579345.camel@redhat.com> (Lyude Paul's message of "Fri, 25 Apr 2025 16:15:14 -0400")

"Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com> writes:

> On Wed, 2025-04-23 at 14:13 +0200, Andreas Hindborg wrote:
>> Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com> writes:
>> >
>> > +};
>> >  use core::marker::PhantomData;
>> >  use pin_init::PinInit;
>> >
>> > @@ -164,6 +168,36 @@ pub(crate) unsafe fn raw_cancel(this: *const Self) -> bool {
>> >          // handled on the C side.
>> >          unsafe { bindings::hrtimer_cancel(c_timer_ptr) != 0 }
>> >      }
>> > +
>> > +    /// Forward the timer expiry for a given timer pointer.
>> > +    ///
>> > +    /// # Safety
>> > +    ///
>> > +    /// `self_ptr` must point to a valid `Self`.
>>
>> I don't think safety requirements are tight enough. We must also have
>> exclusive ownership of the pointee of `self_ptr`.
>
> Are we sure "exclusive ownership" is the right term here? We /technically/ can
> be considered to have unique access over the time expiry since we allow racy
> reads of it, and we only allow writes in situations where the timer access is
> exclusive and the timer isn't started - or from the timer callback itself when
> the timer is started. But we don't have the guarantee of unique access to
> `Self`, and both context and context-less forward() make use of raw_forward()
> since otherwise I wouldn't have really added a raw_ variant in the first
> place.

The function must be safe to call whenever the safety requirements are
satisfied. `self_ptr` pointing to a valid `Self` is not enough for this.
We must also satisfy the conditions for calling
`bindings::hrtimer_forward`, which are a) we are in timer context, or b)
there are no other threads modifying the timer. a) implies b) because
the hrtimer framework holds a lock in timer context, if I recall
correctly.

We can satisfy these by requiring exclusive access, right? In timer
context, it is given by C API contract, outside, we just have to have
&mut ref to the timer.


Best regards,
Andreas Hindborg



  reply	other threads:[~2025-04-29  9:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-15 19:48 [PATCH v2 0/8] rust/hrtimer: Various hrtimer + time additions Lyude Paul
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 1/8] rust: hrtimer: Document the return value for HrTimerHandle::cancel() Lyude Paul
2025-04-23  8:36   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 2/8] rust: hrtimer: Add HrTimer::raw_forward() and forward() Lyude Paul
2025-04-23 12:13   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-25 20:15     ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-29  9:43       ` Andreas Hindborg [this message]
2025-04-29 21:04         ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-23 12:18   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-23 12:57   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-25 21:06     ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-25 21:29       ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-29 10:10         ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 3/8] rust: hrtimer: Add HrTimerCallbackContext and ::forward() Lyude Paul
2025-04-23 12:24   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 4/8] rust: hrtimer: Add HrTimerClockBase Lyude Paul
2025-04-23 12:27   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-28 18:22     ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 5/8] rust: time: Add Instant::from_nanos() Lyude Paul
2025-04-16  9:10   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2025-04-16 18:41     ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-23 12:29   ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-29 16:01     ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-29 19:53       ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 6/8] rust: hrtimer: Add HrTimerClockBase::time() Lyude Paul
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 7/8] rust: hrtimer: Add forward_now() to HrTimer and HrTimerCallbackContext Lyude Paul
2025-04-15 20:17   ` [PATCH v3] " Lyude Paul
2025-04-22 12:18     ` Andreas Hindborg
2025-04-22 19:21       ` Lyude Paul
2025-04-15 19:48 ` [PATCH v2 8/8] rust: hrtimer: Add HrTimer::expires() Lyude Paul
2025-04-23 13:01   ` Andreas Hindborg

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