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From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>,
	 Daniel Xu <dxu@dxuuu.xyz>,
	mingo@redhat.com,  will@kernel.org,  longman@redhat.com,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-toolchains@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] seqlock: Use WRITE_ONCE() when updating sequence
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2024 20:56:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7vgzrxk.fsf@oldenburg.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20241218171241.GN2354@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net> (Peter Zijlstra's message of "Wed, 18 Dec 2024 18:12:41 +0100")

* Peter Zijlstra:

> +linux-toolchains
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2024 at 08:59:47AM -0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
>> > Perhaps something like: (*(volatile unsigned int *)&s->sequence)++; ?
>> > I'd have to check what the compiler makes of that.
>> > 
>> > /me mucks about with godbolt for a bit...
>> > 
>> > GCC doesn't optimize that, but Clang does.
>> > 
>> > I would still very much refrain from making this change until both
>> > compilers can generate sane code for it.
>> 
>> Is GCC on track to do this, or do we need to encourage them?
>
> I have no clue; probably wise to offer encouragement.

What do you consider sane code?

Clang's choice to generate an incl instruction (on x86-64 at least) is a
bit surprising.  Curiously, the C11 abstract machine has a value-less
increment-in-place operation, so it's probably not in violation of the
volatile rules.  (C doesn't specify x++ in terms of ++x and x += 1.)

Thanks,
Florian


  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-12-18 19:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-17 23:17 [PATCH] seqlock: Use WRITE_ONCE() when updating sequence Daniel Xu
2024-12-18  3:30 ` Waiman Long
2024-12-18 15:45   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-18 16:10     ` Waiman Long
2024-12-18 16:57       ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-18 18:38         ` Waiman Long
2024-12-18 18:52           ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-18 20:09             ` Waiman Long
2024-12-18 10:30 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-18 15:43   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-18 16:23     ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-18 16:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-18 16:59         ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-18 17:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-18 19:15             ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-18 19:56             ` Florian Weimer [this message]
2024-12-19 16:10               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-19 16:45                 ` Florian Weimer
2024-12-19 17:48                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-19 17:53                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-12-19 16:34             ` Will Deacon
2024-12-19 17:53               ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-19 17:58                 ` Will Deacon
2024-12-19 18:06                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-12-19 18:31                     ` Will Deacon
2024-12-20 17:40                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2025-01-25  0:31 ` Daniel Xu

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