From: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>
To: paulmck@kernel.org
Cc: Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, peterz@infradead.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@kernel.org, bigeasy@linutronix.de,
juri.lelli@redhat.com, vincent.guittot@linaro.org,
dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
bsegall@google.com, mgorman@suse.de, vschneid@redhat.com,
frederic@kernel.org, efault@gmx.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] rcu: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPT_COUNT=y
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2024 10:59:31 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87v7xz7sak.fsf@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bbd35e87-c7ac-4e69-9f82-7c7338307079@paulmck-laptop>
Paul E. McKenney <paulmck@kernel.org> writes:
> On Wed, Oct 09, 2024 at 12:05:47PM -0700, Ankur Arora wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ankur Arora <ankur.a.arora@oracle.com> writes:
>>
>> > With PREEMPT_RCU=n, cond_resched() provides urgently needed quiescent
>> > states for read-side critical sections via rcu_all_qs().
>> > One reason why this was needed, was lacking preempt-count, the tick
>> > handler has no way of knowing whether it is executing in a read-side
>> > critical section or not.
>> >
>> > With PREEMPT_LAZY=y, there can be configurations with PREEMPT_COUNT=y,
>> > PREEMPT_RCU=n, where cond_resched() is a stub that does not provide
>> > quiescent states via rcu_all_qs().
>> >
>> > So, use the availability of preempt_count() to report quiescent states
>> > in rcu_flavor_sched_clock_irq().
>>
>> A note about the inverse of this case, where we might have long running
>> loops which only temporarily enable preemption and thus would be
>> unlikely to align themselves with the tick: in prior discussions [1]
>> Paul had pointed the need for providing for forcing a context switch
>> in such a scenario.
>>
>> I had a patch which did that, but I think it is unnecessary since this
>> clause in rcu_sched_clock_irq() should already handle it.
>>
>> void rcu_sched_clock_irq(int user) {
>> ...
>> /* The load-acquire pairs with the store-release setting to true. */
>> if (smp_load_acquire(this_cpu_ptr(&rcu_data.rcu_urgent_qs))) {
>> /* Idle and userspace execution already are quiescent states. */
>> if (!rcu_is_cpu_rrupt_from_idle() && !user) {
>> set_tsk_need_resched(current);
>> set_preempt_need_resched();
>> }
>> __this_cpu_write(rcu_data.rcu_urgent_qs, false);
>> }
>>
>> Paul?
>
> As long as the tick is actually enabled.
>
> But looking deeper, there is code in force_qs_rnp() and
> rcu_watching_snap_recheck() to force the tick on CPUs that don't
> response to the grace period soon enough via the -1 return from the
> rcu_watching_snap_recheck() function and via resched_cpu().
Ah. I had missed that path. Thanks.
--
ankur
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-10-10 17:59 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-10-09 16:54 [PATCH 0/7] Lazy preemption bits Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 1/7] sched: warn for high latency with TIF_NEED_RESCHED_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-10-10 6:37 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 18:19 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-13 9:44 ` kernel test robot
2024-10-13 9:54 ` kernel test robot
2024-10-16 9:36 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2024-10-21 19:21 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-22 5:41 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 2/7] rcu: limit PREEMPT_RCU configurations Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 18:01 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-09 18:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-09 20:52 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-09 21:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10 7:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 14:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10 6:32 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 8:10 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 9:13 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 10:03 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 10:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 10:44 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 14:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 8:18 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-11 13:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-11 14:43 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-11 15:59 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 11:22 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-15 22:13 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-17 8:04 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-17 22:50 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-18 17:43 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-18 19:18 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-18 23:24 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-19 1:07 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-19 4:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-15 23:11 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-17 7:07 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-18 17:38 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-21 11:27 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-21 16:48 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-21 19:20 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-22 23:49 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-22 14:09 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-22 23:54 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-23 6:58 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 17:35 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-11 7:58 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-15 23:01 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-10 17:42 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 3/7] rcu: fix header guard for rcu_all_qs() Ankur Arora
2024-10-10 6:41 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 8:11 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-10 14:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 4/7] rcu: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPT_COUNT=y Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 19:05 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-10 14:37 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10 17:59 ` Ankur Arora [this message]
2024-10-10 6:50 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 17:56 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-11 7:52 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 5/7] rcu: rename PREEMPT_AUTO to PREEMPT_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 18:02 ` Peter Zijlstra
2024-10-09 18:52 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 6/7] osnoise: handle quiescent states for PREEMPT_RCU=n, PREEMPTION=y Ankur Arora
2024-10-10 6:53 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 14:39 ` Paul E. McKenney
2024-10-10 17:50 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-11 7:36 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-14 20:14 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-09 16:54 ` [PATCH 7/7] powerpc: add support for PREEMPT_LAZY Ankur Arora
2024-10-10 7:22 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2024-10-10 18:10 ` Ankur Arora
2024-10-11 18:35 ` Shrikanth Hegde
2024-10-12 22:42 ` Michael Ellerman
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